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[Sheb]

Well, I'm planning to go all ships and stuff. You can do air if you don't care.

What? Maybe he found a way. What his name?

[King Cow]

Scotland areas with sea should produce ships.

[Sheb]

Every single scottish province is on the sea.

[King Cow]

haha oh yeah I wonder if they did that on purpose. In ww2 I think the royal navy was basicly based in Scotland. Its a good location for the navy, harder to bomb and attack by air the navy bases but you can counter navy movement from europe.

We will be in trouble is ashford does not have some defence built I assume.

[Paul]

Looking around, I see lots of factories springing up - but precious little production of the resources that factories will need to actually produce anything

A few scattered, low level rubber production buildings. Minimal steel production in most places. Even the cheap units are going to take a lot of resources.

Just an example of what a unit takes, a unit of Marines requires: 1000 uniforms, 75000 cash, 100,000 rubber, 120,000 steel, 25,000 rare metal, 150,000 lumber. As well as 25,000 ammo to fully arm them and food to feed them. Plus the 100,000 production points to produce all 1000 of them, with a minimum production time of 6 hours.

A unit of medium tanks takes 400 uniforms, 250,000 cash, 120,000 lumber, 2,000,000 steel, 200,000 rare metal, 200,000 rubber. As well as 60,000 ammo to fully arm them, food to feed them, and 45,000 fuel to fill their tanks. Plus the 188,900 production points to produce all 100 of them, with a minimum production time of 18 hours.

A light cruiser takes 500 uniforms, 300,000 cash, 1,000,000 lumber, 2,500,000 steel, 250,000 rare metal, 250,000 rubber. As well as 70,000 ammo to fully arm it, food to feed its crew, and 2,200,000 fuel to fill its tanks (it actually consumes 30k, the tank group above 22.5k - you just have to refuel the tanks a lot more often). Plus the 40,625 production points to produce it, with a minimum production time of 2 days.

One thing I'm not completely clear on is: How does the production points and production time interact? Does the ship only take 40,625 production points total, with it being unable to be produced in less than 2 days, or does it take 40,625 production points per hour for two days?

[Sheb]

I think it's the former. It'll take ages to get even a small ship done otherwise. Even a marine regiment will take ages.

[King Cow]

Well it is beta and we all need to learn. Im mostly building up wood and cement production and some stuff for the missions. While bored I placed down some other buildings just so I know where everything will be for the future. (I have everything behind a hill/mountain line for defence not sure if it helps but in my mind it will)

You learn while making mistakes. (evidence of which dots the landscape around me)

I have a feeling its going to be rough once we come out of diplomatic mode unless we are lucky and other world powers are busy at war. Maybe we can start a small war for pratice somewhere. Prehaps we should even start diplomacy now...

[Sheb]

Well, who's going to attack us? Poland is supposed to be on our side, Germany got better prey around (Belgium for one)... The Channel will protect us for some time I guess. Maybe we could all recruits our starting troops (The 1000 Infantry and 100 Guns) to have some kind of defense in case of attack?)

Also, nice thinking about the defensive lines. I just didn't think about that, but then I guess that if the ennemy is in Scotland, we may as well surrender.

Also, I'm already at 2,500 people sawing wood/making cement. I'm afraid of a manpower shortage... And that fucking city only producing 4 an hour.

Well, I guess I'll have to tear down some sawmills/cement plant and create other industries once I hit the manpower limit.

[Rilder]

I'm still focused on getting Wood and Cement up before I really focus on Unit materials, However I'm occasionally devoting a few thousand resources to getting the framework for my industry started.

Also it occurs to me that we should probably devote a fair bit of resources to research.

[Sheb]

I plan on having two or three research centers that I'll update as the time go by. I may create a specialized research province once I capture one more.

[Paul]

Heh, I've already got 7k people at work. My city is producing 10/hr now.

I can still go a ways further, but I think I'll start planning to downsize my cement/lumber production buildings. Maybe stop upgrading 5 of em and start dismantling them in a week or so once I'm needing the workers to do other things (steel production, factories, plus whatever else I get into - might start some rubber production and maybe throw down an ammo factory).

It's funny though, half my people are working in the buildings while the other half upgrades the buildings. I have 7k builders at work right now upgrading my entire cement and lumber industries to the next level.

[King Cow]

Pretty sure Spain will make a move for Gibraltar.

Germany is not far away and if run by Germans they will want to advoid Hitlers mistake and take us out, if they think they can with not to much difficulty. Im worried about Italy or Greece attacking me.

Building roads and railway everywhere would help give them the impression we are more built up than we really are (you can see that in the fog of war). Although this is super easy to counter and spy on us. (just make an alt account in british empire)

India is super exposed. We cant get help from Amerca they are further behind than we are anyone else we can make an alliance with>?  I would actually go for Germany but that might make the game a bit flat. Maybe france not sure how they are doing maybe I should do a bit of spy work myself heh.

Strange I think I read someone was going to start in west Africa but I cant see this, would be usefull for rubber.

[Paul]

Theres not really any way we could protect every British holding globally. We just don't have enough people for that. I mean, Britain has like 1000 provinces.

For everyone up in the British Isles to go defend India we would need a fleet of ships and transports just to move our troops down there, and moving them down there would take time. And once they're there, moving them back would take time. It would leave our core provinces exposed just to defend a bunch of provinces that have no players and no infrastructure.

[Sheb]

Yeah, we can and should agree that some (most) of our provinces aren't worth defending at the moment. We may try to use diplomacy to keep them (Threatening Spain of dire consequence if they attack Gibraltar) but nothing more.

Actually, it might even be a good strategy to let them invade those provinces, so we can invade them back and manage them as secondary holding.

[King Cow]

Yep but I was just saying where someone might attack us and why.

I agree if no one is their playing over there anyway we cant defend it unless we get allot more people playing.

India /most of Africa and american holdings are least important.

It might not be workable to defend Gibraltar because of circumstance but if we can we should. It will be 100 times easier to defend than retake it later.
Maybe we should have a list of the most imporant provinces we need new players to work in although that might not be anything but a suicide mission if we have no navy.


oh btw at what stage do you guys think I need to stop building up wood and cement production I have mine both at 8.4k ph