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[Child of Armok]

We could also tty to overbuff a zombie.
Is there a max to the amount of vitality a zombie can have? And what happens if a zombie gets a lot of vitality?

[Ancre]

command the zombie to self terminate to get rid of another experiment

This. We don't really have the leisure to take our time and play with our zombie right now, so let's get rid of him and of an experiment at the same time.

Then find the children. With a haunted forest we might have other, new and scary, opportunities to test our skills too.

[Toaster]

Did we ever figure out how to do that?  Last I recall, we couldn't actually kill a zombie with Command Undead.


Unless you just want it to beat itself to death, but then why not just command it to stand still while we get a little combat practice with that hatchet on it?

[NoahTophatz]

Just command the zombie to kill itself who knows it might just instantly die or it might have the vitality suddenly come out or it might explode so we should stand back a bit and if it just starts trying to bash itself to death then we can look for the kids as it does that much quicker than trying anything elsen

[Ancre]

Did we ever figure out how to do that?  Last I recall, we couldn't actually kill a zombie with Command Undead.


Unless you just want it to beat itself to death, but then why not just command it to stand still while we get a little combat practice with that hatchet on it?

IIRC, we don't know how to do that, and we don't really know what a "terminate yourself" command would do. We do have an occasion to figure out, and a zombie to get rid of. Trying it and see what happens was something we wanted to do.

[Angle]

Command the zombie to self terminate and then bandage up Omo's wound. If the zombie won't kill itself, have it lie down and then help Omo beat the crap out of it. Then try and scan the forest very thoroughly for any kind of necromantic or otherwise magical traces. Then keep looking for the kids.

[monk12]

You move into the bushes by the side of the road, out of sight of passerby. Composing yourself, you cast Command Undead- it's easier now that you've practiced, and you command one of the minnows. You command, Die, but no response. Cease, Still, End, Self-Terminate... no luck.

Sorry, my bad, I didn't properly update the "planned experiments" tab. That should all be square now, and I've added in the recently proposed experiments. Note that you've just tried to "will" a zombie to death, and have not ordered it to, say, jump off a cliff or something physically suicidal like that. Carry on!

[Angle]

well, okay then. We could try and refine our Impair Undead spell into a true Destroy Undead spell, or we could save our mana and just kill the zombie.

[Phantom of The Library]

We still don't know the location of the kids yet, we made need the mana and a Destroy Undead spell can be practiced just as easily on our own creations as it can be on this thing.  I say we just have the thing stand still and cut off its head, then go search for the kids in the forest.

Or alternatively, have the zombie walk past the tree line before us after we make sure that the kids aren't withing sight range.  This would test if there's any specific reason why they aren't entering like an insta-death field of some sort.   If the undead can't enter for some reason it could be used as shelter for the village people.

[Angle]

Have it lay down, so that if it rejects our control it'll be in a disadvantageous position.

[Grek]

Take this chance to more carefully examine the zombie up close before we do

We still don't know the location of the kids yet, we made need the mana and a Destroy Undead spell can be practiced just as easily on our own creations as it can be on this thing.  I say we just have the thing stand still and cut off its head, then go search for the kids in the forest.

Or alternatively, have the zombie walk past the tree line before us after we make sure that the kids aren't withing sight range.  This would test if there's any specific reason why they aren't entering like an insta-death field of some sort.   If the undead can't enter for some reason it could be used as shelter for the village people.

This.

[LordBucket]

First priority!!!!

The cold hand of the zombie scratches a furrow down Omo's arm

Magically inspect Omo and his injury for traces of necromancy

We don't yet know know if it's contractible. Is the magic effect contagious? Do humans killed by zombies become zombies?  Is transfer of fluids enough? We need to know, and if there are any necromantic traces left in Omo's injury Get it out.

[Felius]

well, okay then. We could try and refine our Impair Undead spell into a true Destroy Undead spell, or we could save our mana and just kill the zombie.

Maybe later. Right now a hatchet to the head should be better. Order it not to move nor resist. That, or order it to bash itself on the head. We can try to refine the spell once we are in a more controlled situation.

First priority!!!!

The cold hand of the zombie scratches a furrow down Omo's arm

Magically inspect Omo and his injury for traces of necromancy

We don't yet know know if it's contractible. Is the magic effect contagious? Do humans killed by zombies become zombies?  Is transfer of fluids enough? We need to know, and if there are any necromantic traces left in Omo's injury Get it out.

It shouldn't be, considering that there wasn't a complete zombie apocalypse yet, so most likely it's not contagious, at least not to that extent. There's also the fact that animating a zombie seems to require energy that other zombies can't provide. But it shouldn't take more than a minute to check his wounds for traces of necromancy with our expanded senses. But honestly, at most he's in danger of an infection if it is not cleaned once we have the time.

[Phantom of The Library]

Good catch, I forgot about that.

We should definitely check Omo's injury immediately, but I don't think that we have much to worry about.  These are almost certainly  good old raised corpses, not the modern viral zombie fad.  All the same, I wouldn't put it past whichever necromancer we're facing to develop some sort of spell that makes injuries fester via the draining of vitality or something similar.

[NoahTophatz]

I wouldn't put it past whichever necromancer we're facing to develop some sort of spell that makes injuries fester via the draining of vitality or something similar.

I don't think nightroar would be subtle enough for that based on his current tatics of copy all others necromancers and send in a large amount of zombies