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[fergus]

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At first, I was planning to argue for why stealing the medallion would be a terrible idea. But then I realized that we're probably going to end up trying to get it regardless, so I may as well propose an cunning plan that lets us do that without getting ourselves arrested.

The first thing to note is that the medallion is almost certainly not worth 100 gold. The merchant doesn't know who made it, how old it is, where it's from or even that it's magical. He's clearly bluffing. Chances are we can talk the price down quite a bit if we try. The second thing to note is that we have a good way to make money: Mana potions. If we get Pevo to teach us how to make these, and he's already agreed to do so, we can raise the money to buy the medallion legitimately without anyone wondering why we were desperate enough to steal it.

At this point, you're probably asking yourself, "Isn't the merchant going to leave before we can get the money for the medallion?" The answer to this is no. Why? Because we're going to go with the merchant, that's why! After we learn to make mana potions, we can go to the merchant (who's name we should learn, by the way) and ask him to sneak us out of the Vale in exchange for us coming with him and brewing valuable mana potions for him to sell. We can even invite Omo along on our adventure, if we think he'd be up for it.

So, here's the plan: Ask the merchant's name and if he'd be willing to meet us back here tonight, after his shop's closed down for the night, to discuss a business deal. Then we go learn to make mana potions. Once we're done, go visit Elana, let Omo know that we're going to crash at our mother's tonight in order to escape his snoring and then meet up the merchant and offer him the deal. If he accepts, we're golden. If not, we can always try one of those other plans.

Seconded.

[lockman766]

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At first, I was planning to argue for why stealing the medallion would be a terrible idea. But then I realized that we're probably going to end up trying to get it regardless, so I may as well propose an cunning plan that lets us do that without getting ourselves arrested.

The first thing to note is that the medallion is almost certainly not worth 100 gold. The merchant doesn't know who made it, how old it is, where it's from or even that it's magical. He's clearly bluffing. Chances are we can talk the price down quite a bit if we try. The second thing to note is that we have a good way to make money: Mana potions. If we get Pevo to teach us how to make these, and he's already agreed to do so, we can raise the money to buy the medallion legitimately without anyone wondering why we were desperate enough to steal it.

At this point, you're probably asking yourself, "Isn't the merchant going to leave before we can get the money for the medallion?" The answer to this is no. Why? Because we're going to go with the merchant, that's why! After we learn to make mana potions, we can go to the merchant (who's name we should learn, by the way) and ask him to sneak us out of the Vale in exchange for us coming with him and brewing valuable mana potions for him to sell. We can even invite Omo along on our adventure, if we think he'd be up for it.

So, here's the plan: Ask the merchant's name and if he'd be willing to meet us back here tonight, after his shop's closed down for the night, to discuss a business deal. Then we go learn to make mana potions. Once we're done, go visit Elana, let Omo know that we're going to crash at our mother's tonight in order to escape his snoring and then meet up the merchant and offer him the deal. If he accepts, we're golden. If not, we can always try one of those other plans.

Seconded.

Thirded.

[Elvisdogs]

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At first, I was planning to argue for why stealing the medallion would be a terrible idea. But then I realized that we're probably going to end up trying to get it regardless, so I may as well propose an cunning plan that lets us do that without getting ourselves arrested.

The first thing to note is that the medallion is almost certainly not worth 100 gold. The merchant doesn't know who made it, how old it is, where it's from or even that it's magical. He's clearly bluffing. Chances are we can talk the price down quite a bit if we try. The second thing to note is that we have a good way to make money: Mana potions. If we get Pevo to teach us how to make these, and he's already agreed to do so, we can raise the money to buy the medallion legitimately without anyone wondering why we were desperate enough to steal it.

At this point, you're probably asking yourself, "Isn't the merchant going to leave before we can get the money for the medallion?" The answer to this is no. Why? Because we're going to go with the merchant, that's why! After we learn to make mana potions, we can go to the merchant (who's name we should learn, by the way) and ask him to sneak us out of the Vale in exchange for us coming with him and brewing valuable mana potions for him to sell. We can even invite Omo along on our adventure, if we think he'd be up for it.

So, here's the plan: Ask the merchant's name and if he'd be willing to meet us back here tonight, after his shop's closed down for the night, to discuss a business deal. Then we go learn to make mana potions. Once we're done, go visit Elana, let Omo know that we're going to crash at our mother's tonight in order to escape his snoring and then meet up the merchant and offer him the deal. If he accepts, we're golden. If not, we can always try one of those other plans.

Seconded.

Thirded.

Quaded

[Phantom of The Library]

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At first, I was planning to argue for why stealing the medallion would be a terrible idea. But then I realized that we're probably going to end up trying to get it regardless, so I may as well propose an cunning plan that lets us do that without getting ourselves arrested.

The first thing to note is that the medallion is almost certainly not worth 100 gold. The merchant doesn't know who made it, how old it is, where it's from or even that it's magical. He's clearly bluffing. Chances are we can talk the price down quite a bit if we try. The second thing to note is that we have a good way to make money: Mana potions. If we get Pevo to teach us how to make these, and he's already agreed to do so, we can raise the money to buy the medallion legitimately without anyone wondering why we were desperate enough to steal it.

At this point, you're probably asking yourself, "Isn't the merchant going to leave before we can get the money for the medallion?" The answer to this is no. Why? Because we're going to go with the merchant, that's why! After we learn to make mana potions, we can go to the merchant (who's name we should learn, by the way) and ask him to sneak us out of the Vale in exchange for us coming with him and brewing valuable mana potions for him to sell. We can even invite Omo along on our adventure, if we think he'd be up for it.

So, here's the plan: Ask the merchant's name and if he'd be willing to meet us back here tonight, after his shop's closed down for the night, to discuss a business deal. Then we go learn to make mana potions. Once we're done, go visit Elana, let Omo know that we're going to crash at our mother's tonight in order to escape his snoring and then meet up the merchant and offer him the deal. If he accepts, we're golden. If not, we can always try one of those other plans.

Seconded.

Thirded.

Quaded

Quinted

Well we are a hot elf.

Since when? Anyway, I doubt he will fall for that over something so valuable.

Well we are an elf. I'm just assuming by every elven racial stereotype that elves look good.

Elvisdogs was probably referring to a comment that Omo made at the end of this update.

[Koliup]

Or we could send in a zombie or skeleton to wreck the place, and another to steal the amulet. A third route is practicing ye olde necromancy, and seeing if we can coerce a spirit into getting it for us, or helping us get it.

[lockman766]

Or we could send in a zombie or skeleton to wreck the place, and another to steal the amulet. A third route is practicing ye olde necromancy, and seeing if we can coerce a spirit into getting it for us, or helping us get it.

Have you read this story up to this point? Maybe you should.

[Koliup]

Or we could send in a zombie or skeleton to wreck the place, and another to steal the amulet. A third route is practicing ye olde necromancy, and seeing if we can coerce a spirit into getting it for us, or helping us get it.

Have you read this story up to this point? Maybe you should.

My apologies for desiring the quick route to hell. Though I do stand by the idea of using spirits.

[monk12]

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At first, I was planning to argue for why stealing the medallion would be a terrible idea. But then I realized that we're probably going to end up trying to get it regardless, so I may as well propose an cunning plan that lets us do that without getting ourselves arrested.

The first thing to note is that the medallion is almost certainly not worth 100 gold. The merchant doesn't know who made it, how old it is, where it's from or even that it's magical. He's clearly bluffing. Chances are we can talk the price down quite a bit if we try. The second thing to note is that we have a good way to make money: Mana potions. If we get Pevo to teach us how to make these, and he's already agreed to do so, we can raise the money to buy the medallion legitimately without anyone wondering why we were desperate enough to steal it.

At this point, you're probably asking yourself, "Isn't the merchant going to leave before we can get the money for the medallion?" The answer to this is no. Why? Because we're going to go with the merchant, that's why! After we learn to make mana potions, we can go to the merchant (who's name we should learn, by the way) and ask him to sneak us out of the Vale in exchange for us coming with him and brewing valuable mana potions for him to sell. We can even invite Omo along on our adventure, if we think he'd be up for it.

So, here's the plan: Ask the merchant's name and if he'd be willing to meet us back here tonight, after his shop's closed down for the night, to discuss a business deal. Then we go learn to make mana potions. Once we're done, go visit Elana, let Omo know that we're going to crash at our mother's tonight in order to escape his snoring and then meet up the merchant and offer him the deal. If he accepts, we're golden. If not, we can always try one of those other plans.

Seconded.

Thirded.

Quaded

Quinted

I will note that this plan will involve hanging around Yicelafo another week, and since the Caravan will be escorted out of the Vale under armed guard (led by your Father, no less) you'll probably need the approval of the Elders, or some other clever plan/workaround. This plan does have some rather obvious upsides, so I'll leave it to You to debate the advantages and demerits.

Well we are a hot elf.

Since when? Anyway, I doubt he will fall for that over something so valuable.

Well we are an elf. I'm just assuming by every elven racial stereotype that elves look good.

Elvisdogs was probably referring to a comment that Omo made at the end of this update.

Omo's comment was less on your beauty, and more on The Most Common Superpower. As long as we're on the subject, however, I'll say that you're fairly average in appearance by Elf standards. Since elves are fair in appearance to begin with, and don't suffer much in the way of smallpox scars, acne, or any of the other blemishes associated with normal human/dwarf life, You are somewhere between Pretty and Beautiful in the eyes of the rest of the world.

[Phantom of The Library]

Or we could send in a zombie or skeleton to wreck the place, and another to steal the amulet. A third route is practicing ye olde necromancy, and seeing if we can coerce a spirit into getting it for us, or helping us get it.

Have you read this story up to this point? Maybe you should.

My apologies for desiring the quick route to hell. Though I do stand by the idea of using spirits.

We have no ability to call on spirits, as lockman said, read the entire thing first, or else you won't have a clue about what's going on, a large part of this game is the discovery of the rules, and of you don't know them, then you're going to be lost and your suggestions are going to be useless 9.7/10 times.

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At first, I was planning to argue for why stealing the medallion would be a terrible idea. But then I realized that we're probably going to end up trying to get it regardless, so I may as well propose an cunning plan that lets us do that without getting ourselves arrested.

The first thing to note is that the medallion is almost certainly not worth 100 gold. The merchant doesn't know who made it, how old it is, where it's from or even that it's magical. He's clearly bluffing. Chances are we can talk the price down quite a bit if we try. The second thing to note is that we have a good way to make money: Mana potions. If we get Pevo to teach us how to make these, and he's already agreed to do so, we can raise the money to buy the medallion legitimately without anyone wondering why we were desperate enough to steal it.

At this point, you're probably asking yourself, "Isn't the merchant going to leave before we can get the money for the medallion?" The answer to this is no. Why? Because we're going to go with the merchant, that's why! After we learn to make mana potions, we can go to the merchant (who's name we should learn, by the way) and ask him to sneak us out of the Vale in exchange for us coming with him and brewing valuable mana potions for him to sell. We can even invite Omo along on our adventure, if we think he'd be up for it.

So, here's the plan: Ask the merchant's name and if he'd be willing to meet us back here tonight, after his shop's closed down for the night, to discuss a business deal. Then we go learn to make mana potions. Once we're done, go visit Elana, let Omo know that we're going to crash at our mother's tonight in order to escape his snoring and then meet up the merchant and offer him the deal. If he accepts, we're golden. If not, we can always try one of those other plans.

Seconded.

Thirded.

Quaded

Quinted

I will note that this plan will involve hanging around Yicelafo another week, and since the Caravan will be escorted out of the Vale under armed guard (led by your Father, no less) you'll probably need the approval of the Elders, or some other clever plan/workaround. This plan does have some rather obvious upsides, so I'll leave it to You to debate the advantages and demerits.

Hhhhm, I say for now, we learn how to make the potions, and see how long it takes to make them, if we can make enough to raise the money in a week or less I say we do so.  If not, then we discuss other options, this amulet is probably the only sure chance that we'll get to get an artifact, and it would be extremely useful, but we shouldn't put ourselves at undue risk to get it, we can go on without it, but it would be immensely useful to get it.

Well we are a hot elf.

Since when? Anyway, I doubt he will fall for that over something so valuable.

Well we are an elf. I'm just assuming by every elven racial stereotype that elves look good.

Elvisdogs was probably referring to a comment that Omo made at the end of this update.

Omo's comment was less on your beauty, and more on The Most Common Superpower. As long as we're on the subject, however, I'll say that you're fairly average in appearance by Elf standards. Since elves are fair in appearance to begin with, and don't suffer much in the way of smallpox scars, acne, or any of the other blemishes associated with normal human/dwarf life, You are somewhere between Pretty and Beautiful in the eyes of the rest of the world.

I figured as much.

[lockman766]

Well we still want that amulet. Find out how to make a mana potion. Go back bargain the price down then use the mana potion to buy it. Afterwards get the heck out of dodge. 

[Phantom of The Library]

Somehow I doubt a single mana potion will buy an [velociraptorairquotes]extremely rare dwarven artifact[/velociraptorairquotes]

[Grek]

So, are we going to try to get Council permission, or are we going to sneak out, hiding in a hay wagon*?


*note that this is a metaphor, not an actual suggestion. If we vote for that, we should come up with a way better plan.

[GlyphGryph]

Honestly... I', beginning to look towards asking for council permission. Look at it like this:

People know we are coming here to ask them about it. The most suspicious course of action would be NOT DOING IT. I don't see how we'd have any more trouble after asking than before - I very much doubt they're going to put us under guard for expressing interest, considering the support we've had, and we're doubtless going to gain valuable knowledge from it. And there's always a chance they might have a damn good reason to send us out - if there's really a potential of the elves getting involved in the wider world again, they might need someone to go out and do some scouting of some sort.

And if our father is leading the armed group escorting them out the vale, well - in that case, I have several additional plans that might work pretty well even if the council turns us down.

The biggest issue here will be convincing Omo - and honestly, if he wants to go on his own, I say we try to organize some sort of meetup with him and try our own plan first even if he won't stand for it. I am 100% confident we'll still be able to get out even after asking permission - after all, if we threaten to kill ourselves if the border patrols stop us, would they really, honestly try? Wouldn't the whole point of stopping us be for our own protection? And once we're outside the forest, it's not like they're going to follow us...

At this point, I say we return to Omo and start discussing potential ways to do this, and, again, ask why leaving NOW is in any way superior to waiting a couple days.

[lockman766]

Honestly... I', beginning to look towards asking for council permission. Look at it like this:

People know we are coming here to ask them about it. The most suspicious course of action would be NOT DOING IT. I don't see how we'd have any more trouble after asking than before - I very much doubt they're going to put us under guard for expressing interest, considering the support we've had, and we're doubtless going to gain valuable knowledge from it. And there's always a chance they might have a damn good reason to send us out - if there's really a potential of the elves getting involved in the wider world again, they might need someone to go out and do some scouting of some sort.

And if our father is leading the armed group escorting them out the vale, well - in that case, I have several additional plans that might work pretty well even if the council turns us down.

The biggest issue here will be convincing Omo - and honestly, if he wants to go on his own, I say we try to organize some sort of meetup with him and try our own plan first even if he won't stand for it. I am 100% confident we'll still be able to get out even after asking permission - after all, if we threaten to kill ourselves if the border patrols stop us, would they really, honestly try? Wouldn't the whole point of stopping us be for our own protection? And once we're outside the forest, it's not like they're going to follow us...

At this point, I say we return to Omo and start discussing potential ways to do this, and, again, ask why leaving NOW is in any way superior to waiting a couple days.

*sigh* alright let's give it a try.

[lockman766]

Somehow I doubt a single mana potion will buy an [velociraptorairquotes]extremely rare dwarven artifact[/velociraptorairquotes]

Then we make several.