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[Angle]

we should leave the experiments until after we've made those mana potions.

[GlyphGryph]

On our way out of the forest, assuming it is more than a days trip, and whenever we can't safely experiment, we should be making mana potions. Which is again why I stress we should spend the vast bulk of our money on those crystals so we have them.

[Lord Allagon]

On our way out of the forest, assuming it is more than a days trip, and whenever we can't safely experiment, we should be making mana potions. Which is again why I stress we should spend the vast bulk of our money on those crystals so we have them.

+1

[RAM]

I believe that the magic potion trade exists in many places, I would suggest pursuing magical knowledge while with the elves, as you may not be able to return for a long time...

[GlyphGryph]

We will not BE with the elves on our multi-day trip out of the forest - It will just be us and Omo. If we run into other elves, we've screwed up.

We don't have any more time to waste pursuing magical knowledge - we need to leave. An no one else is familiar with the sort of magic we'll be using anyways, at least not around here.

Something else to consider:
There may, in fact, be other peaceful Necromancers in the world. It seems painfully obvious they, even if the locals knew about them, would not be broadcasting their presence to the world at large if they could possibly help it. There's not actually a reason the Elves in particular would here about Necromancers that WEREN'T trying to conquer the world, is there? Especially since they are as insular as they are. Once we reach Thrimsomething, we might try to gain more information about it.

[RAM]

Exactly, no more elves, so it may be that we can easily acquire a beginner's guide to general magic here that would be the equivalent of a rare and powerful compendium of lost arts across most of the rest of the world. While one would guess that the crystals are available for the wide-spread potion trade and presumably come from somewhere to begin with... I don't know what sort of books would be appropriate, probably something portable with a large selection of utility spells, such as communication, protection from hostile environments, mobility enhancement. Something with enough information that someone could figure out how to use the described effects with study and practice, while being sufficiently brief that it could be carried without being too much of an impediment. Perhaps one very detailed instruction on a single magical effect and another with basic details on performing most of the effects that would be useful on a journey to a magically unusual environment.
 A list of available works that describe the process of evoking general magic would be useful, our budget would probably preclude anything over, say, 10 gold, maybe look into items up to 20 gold if they are particularly desirable...

[The Alchemist]

Yes I agree with obtaining some sort of a magical spell book for general spells, those spells will probably come in handy and if they don't, well knowing more spells can't hurt.

[Cellmonk]

Yes I agree with obtaining some sort of a magical spell book for general spells, those spells will probably come in handy and if they don't, well knowing more spells can't hurt.

It might also have information on the nature some of the magic we come across. Creatures squatting on our ribcage sort of stuff.

[Grek]

Yes I agree with obtaining some sort of a magical spell book for general spells, those spells will probably come in handy and if they don't, well knowing more spells can't hurt.

This is more something to do in Thrimesdur than something to do while we're in the Vale.

Consider: We have lived in the Vale all of our life. We've tried and failed to learn the general magic taught in the Vale beyond the most basic of spells. Either we, personally, are unable to learn general magic due to some inherent lack of magical talent on our part, or else we, as a necromancer, are unable to learn from life magic users because of some incompatability between our magical understandings.

[The Alchemist]

Yes I agree with obtaining some sort of a magical spell book for general spells, those spells will probably come in handy and if they don't, well knowing more spells can't hurt.

This is more something to do in Thrimesdur than something to do while we're in the Vale.

Consider: We have lived in the Vale all of our life. We've tried and failed to learn the general magic taught in the Vale beyond the most basic of spells. Either we, personally, are unable to learn general magic due to some inherent lack of magical talent on our part, or else we, as a necromancer, are unable to learn from life magic users because of some incompatability between our magical understandings.

There's nothing stopping us from learning general magic, we were very talented in magic as a child as per our history. We just couldn't learn life magic because we are a necromancer. We were still able to learn potion making, so I don't believe there is anything that stops us from learning general magic, but we will find out when we try to learn new general spells.

[RAM]

Why not just go to a vendor of knowledge and see what is available?

[Cellmonk]

Why not just go to a vendor of knowledge and see what is available?

Hear-hear!

[racnor]

I think most books we find here would be available in Thrimsdur for free, with the empire's famous ancient libraries. Mana crystals will probably be cheaper there as well (Pevo said that the elves imported it from Thrimesdur and the coast when we were first discussing it) so we shouldn't buy them for experiments until we get there. I do agree that we should see what knowledge we can find/buy here first though.

EDIT-oops, it was Ari who told us about the crystals

[Felius]

I think most books we find here would be available in Thrimsdur for free, with the empire's famous ancient libraries. Mana crystals will probably be cheaper there as well (Pevo said that the elves imported it from Thrimesdur and the coast when we were first discussing it) so we shouldn't buy them for experiments until we get there. I do agree that we should see what knowledge we can find/buy here first though.

We probably should buy at least a few mana points worth of crystals, not to experiment, but to create a potion for emergency situations. Plus, we can use the travel time to make some potions, and sell them before/when we arrive.

[RAM]

agreed