Simple: I'm glad that
someone understands where I am coming from.
I don't think we should lynch NUKE.
Aww yisss. You heard it, folks. Webadict says no lynching NUKE. Make with the unvoting; the man's the king of mafia. [/joke]
NUKE, that was in the same post you were berating me for something "you already explained" in. So I was supposed to read that first part and time-travel to change my posts?
Sorry, yes. I should have made that clearer. I was not actually berating you for not being able to travel through time; I just meant that I was not going to write it out again. I probably should have said 'see above'.
EBWODP: NUKE, I'm not bandwagoning. I have my own reasons (which you even see are reasons), and just because you say they're invalid doesn't make them invalid. Plus, absolute falseness of one of your points (which I just pointed out) makes me want to hang you more.
Even if they aren't invalid, they are not sufficient. Your vote on me was for doing a 'ridiculous reaction test'. Now, you may think that is bad. You may even think that is scummy. But I find it very hard to believe that you think that is lynch-worthy.
I could answer a number of these questions, but they look like WIFOM and I'd like to know why you're using them.
Because I do not think MBP, and to a lesser degree yourself, have thought about this. I think this because from MBP (and to a lesser degree yourself) all I am hearing is NO LYNCH BAD, QED YOU BAD, which isn't much of an argument and is rather hard to respond to. I have explained why I don't think a no lynch is as bad in this situation, and MBP has yet to respond to this. You have responded, to a degree. Certainly below is a fairly valid response, to which I am going to respond.
We would still miss out on the information we get from the lynch, getting information from the night kill is almost always WIFOM, and confirming things beyond kills requires a lot of claiming which only provides the scum with very valuable targets for possible roleblocking/killing/etc.
-If you assume (as I am doing) that whoever we lynch D1 is town, all the information we might get is also attained without killing them. The role-flip information is rather useless when the user is dead, and for a baseline of what other roles are like (allowing us to form expectations of the average role), NKs are just as effective.
-This is the Power Role Problem. When to reveal? Ideally, not until said reveal will end the game in victory for the town. However, I believe that in most games, a guilty investigation result is always worth revealing. Less significant information, not always, but people don't need to reveal information to act upon it. Every vote counts, and a cop who knows someone is innocent not voting for that person could swing the balance in their favour. Conversely, a cop who knows someone is
probably guilty can make a case with additional confidence, increasing its strength and swinging the balance against them.
LYNCH THE LURKERS!
ALSO LYNCH WEBADICT BECAUSE HE IS ALWAYS SCUM PAST N1 RIGHT?
Lovely.
Isn't it just?