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GlyphGryph

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Re: Law: water can not prevent dehydration
« Reply #60 on: November 20, 2011, 01:40:15 am »

Ah, nevermind - apparently Vitamin D is a vitamin much like "y" is a vowel.

Specifically, it is only a vitamin in circumstances where you need more of it than your body can produce - to those who work outside in the sun all day, vitamin D does not exist. :P

Oddly enough, that means D is a vitamin, a not-a-vitamin, and a toxin. (only when digested, though)

Ah, the joys of categorization.
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Re: Law: water can not prevent dehydration
« Reply #61 on: November 20, 2011, 01:51:02 am »

Oh right, and the sunlight thing which means that you can actually supply enough raw materials and... Y'know what? Fuck vitamin D. Fuck it right in its smug little atoms. That's right, science. I said it.
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Re: Law: water can not prevent dehydration
« Reply #62 on: November 20, 2011, 04:10:58 am »

Ah, nevermind - apparently Vitamin D is a vitamin much like "y" is a vowel.

...It's a vitamin in other languagesorganisms than English?
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Re: Law: water can not prevent dehydration
« Reply #63 on: November 20, 2011, 05:38:03 pm »

Lol, europe.
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Re: Law: water can not prevent dehydration
« Reply #64 on: November 20, 2011, 05:48:57 pm »

"y" is a vowel in English.

Occasionally.
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Re: Law: water can not prevent dehydration
« Reply #65 on: November 20, 2011, 06:38:43 pm »

Also appropriately named, because "WHYYYYYY?"
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Re: Law: water can not prevent dehydration
« Reply #66 on: November 20, 2011, 06:54:11 pm »

Water can prevent dehydration, just gotta drink it every so often.
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Re: Law: water can not prevent dehydration
« Reply #67 on: November 21, 2011, 04:17:19 pm »

Water can prevent dehydration, just gotta drink it every so often.
No, drinking water simply forestalls dehydration and its subsequent consequences.

Entropy (or, as it is known colloquially: Death) is a chronic condition which we all suffer from, and it manifests itself as symptoms such as dehydration, hunger, aging, etc. One cannot 'cure' death (yet), one can only treat the symptoms and forestall the eventual conclusion.
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Re: Law: water can not prevent dehydration
« Reply #68 on: November 21, 2011, 04:21:01 pm »

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No, drinking water simply forestalls dehydration and its subsequent consequences.

Is there another definition of "prevent" that I'm unaware of?

"Prevent:
*to hold or keep back
*to interpose an obstacle''

Synonyms: avert, forestall, head off, help, obviate, preclude, stave off"
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Re: Law: water can not prevent dehydration
« Reply #69 on: November 21, 2011, 04:22:02 pm »

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Re: Law: water can not prevent dehydration
« Reply #70 on: November 21, 2011, 04:24:10 pm »

I can't help it.
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Re: Law: water can not prevent dehydration
« Reply #71 on: November 21, 2011, 04:27:26 pm »

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No, drinking water simply forestalls dehydration and its subsequent consequences.

Is there another definition of "prevent" that I'm unaware of?

"Prevent:
*to hold or keep back
*to interpose an obstacle''

Synonyms: avert, forestall, head off, help, obviate, preclude, stave off"

Prevention implies that it will never happen. You'll eventually dehydrate no matter how much water you drink. It may happen once you're dead, it may happen 1000 years after you die if you fall into a river or something.

You can prevent chicken pox if you get a vaccine. If the vaccine is effective for you (~70% iirc) then you will not get chicken pox.
You can prevent yourself from falling out a window by not going near windows.
You can prevent yourself from catching a cold by limiting your contact with people who have colds (actually, limit yourself from contact with all people. People are disgusting)
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Re: Law: water can not prevent dehydration
« Reply #72 on: November 21, 2011, 04:32:21 pm »

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No, drinking water simply forestalls dehydration and its subsequent consequences.

Is there another definition of "prevent" that I'm unaware of?

"Prevent:
*to hold or keep back
*to interpose an obstacle''

Synonyms: avert, forestall, head off, help, obviate, preclude, stave off"

Yeah, but as dehydration is always going on, no matter how much water you have in your body, it can never be prevented. The only way to prevent dehydration is to be completely devoid of water, that is, already dehydrated.

Yeah, I still assume it's the verb form. It's the only way to make this logical.

...Kind of ninja'd.
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Re: Law: water can not prevent dehydration
« Reply #73 on: November 21, 2011, 04:53:39 pm »

There's no generally accepted definition of dehydration, even as a verb (which in this case, would more likely be "dehydrating", to make any sense) that simply means loss of water. By its very nature, it only refers to a condition or process involving excessive loss of water, to the point of deficiency.

Technically, the condition isn't even exclusively reserved to losing water - it can have other causes too, and that is probably what this is about. It only prevents dehydration due to water loss, but does nothing for hypotonic or hyponatremic dehydration.

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Prevention implies that it will never happen.
Citation?

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You can prevent yourself from falling out a window by not going near windows.
Until you go near a window, obviously.
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You can prevent yourself from catching a cold by limiting your contact with people who have colds (actually, limit yourself from contact with all people. People are disgusting)
Again, until you go near someone with a cold.

Specifically, drinking water prevents dehydration (certain types of it), as long as you continue drinking water. Obviously if you cease the activity that works as prevention, the thing it prevents can happen.
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Re: Law: water can not prevent dehydration
« Reply #74 on: November 21, 2011, 05:09:00 pm »

Next thing you know, water will be categorized as an addictive drug that humanity just happens to need every day.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dihydrogen_monoxide_hoax
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