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[Darvi]

Unfortunately that means that the entire rest of  the world will also suffer for it.

However I still hope that it passes simply so that there can be a revolt that will get everybody kicked out of the government.

[PTTG??]

A question worth asking is, why is the internet so reliant on the good behavior of the US? Perhaps it's time to make a network that is more resilient, more anonymous, and more free than the internet is.

[lordcooper]

A question worth asking is, why is the internet so reliant on the good behavior of the US? Perhaps it's time to make a network that is more resilient, more anonymous, and more free than the internet is.

Go on then.

[Aklyon]

A question worth asking is, why is the internet so reliant on the good behavior of the US?

Because there are only 5 regional RIRs (ours is ARIN, the American Registry for Internet Numbers), and if the USA makes something stupid like this happen, theres a very likely chance that it could affect Canadian or some Caribbean IPv4 addresses depending on how far up they plan to wreck the DNS structure, since this idiotic bill is counting everything from ARIN as 'US domestic for law purposes'.

The other 4 RIRs are LACNIC (Latin America), APNIC (Everything between China and New Zealand, also Japan), AfriNIC (Africa), and RIPE NCC (Europe, Middle East, Russia, Central Asia), SOPA isn't actually the biggest problem the internet is coming up to at the moment, though its certainly at least a solid 2nd place or a tied 1st.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

(response to flaming removed)

[Toady One]

(cleaned out a developing derail)

[Aklyon]

The EU Parliament is yelling at us about this now.

On our side of the atlantic though, we have anti-SOPA/PIPA people saying these will kill jobs, while the bills' supporters are raving about both soldiers and spongebob, though that last one probably isn't as important to Congress as election issues are.

[Angel Of Death]

Why the fuck would you want to censor the internet? Signed.

[Urist Imiknorris]

Why the fuck would you want to censor the internet? Signed.

Beacuse WAA PIRACY and crap like that.

[Aklyon]

In related news, Senator Ron Wyden is threatening to filibuster (Non-stop talking to obstruct and delay the bill) by reading a giant list of names of people against the two bills if they come up for voting.

Source

[Darvi]

Is that good or bad news?

Also, the new milestone is an entire whopping million now. Will be a long journey until then.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

Good. He's going to try and starve the bill out until they cloture him.

[Aklyon]

Good. He's going to try and starve the bill out until they cloture him.

Pretty much this. Can't talk forever without bringing up an actual new point, but he can drag the discussion on for as long as the other Senators will let him.

[Leafsnail]

Well to my understanding it would take 60 senators to shut him up, right?  I guess that at least puts another hurdle in its way (I would've thought it'd be hard convincing that many senators to potentially damage their popularity so much).

[Aklyon]

Wikipedia says this on cloture:

The procedure for "invoking cloture," or ending a filibuster, is as follows:

    A minimum of sixteen senators must sign a petition for cloture. (To start it)
    The petition may be presented by interrupting another Senator's speech.
    The clerk reads the petition.
    The cloture petition is ignored for one full day during which the Senate is sitting. For example, if the petition is filed on Monday, it is ignored until Wednesday. (If the petition is filed on a Friday, it is ignored until Tuesday, assuming that the Senate did not sit on Saturday or Sunday.)[11]
    On the second calendar day during which the Senate sits after the presentation of the petition, after the Senate has been sitting for one hour, a "quorum call" is undertaken to ensure that a majority of the Senators are present. However, the mandatory quorum call is often waived by unanimous consent.
    The President of the Senate or President pro tempore presents the petition.
    The Senate votes on the petition; three-fifths of the whole number of Senators (sixty with no vacancies) is the required majority; however, when cloture is invoked on a question of changing the rules of the Senate, two-thirds of the Senators voting (not necessarily two-thirds of all Senators) is the requisite majority. This is commonly referred to in the news media as a "test vote".

After cloture has been invoked, the following restrictions apply:

    No more than thirty hours of debate may occur.[12]
    No Senator may speak for more than one hour.
    No amendments may be moved unless they were filed on the day in between the presentation of the petition and the actual cloture vote.
    All amendments must be relevant to the debate.
    Certain procedural motions are not permissible.
    The presiding officer gains additional power in controlling debate.
    No other matters may be considered until the question upon which cloture was invoked is disposed of.

So 16 Senators have to be for PIPA enough to sstart making him shut up, then the majority have to vote in favor of cloture two days later for it to actually succeed in doing so.