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Ifeno

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Animal Preservation
« on: November 09, 2011, 05:22:18 pm »

So i built a massive war elephant army and i capture and tamed a dragon.  HOWEVER, i am getting extremely frustrated with this fortreses' map size.  I wish abandone it and reclaim a section of it (the section with the actual fortress). 

My question:

If i put all my animals in a cage and build it.  Will they still be here after i reclaim the fort or are all tame animals insta killed?
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Re: Animal Preservation
« Reply #1 on: November 09, 2011, 05:24:16 pm »

All tame animals are insta-killed on abandon.


How are you feeding those elephants anyway? Aren't they supposed to starve to death since they can't graze fast enough?
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« Reply #2 on: November 09, 2011, 05:28:54 pm »

He tamed a dragon, so he must have modded the raws to do so. So he probably modded the elephants to make them able to eat enough to not starve.
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Re: Animal Preservation
« Reply #3 on: November 09, 2011, 09:47:36 pm »

Erm no...the dragon isnt tamed...just captured and stuck in the zoo.  As for the elephants...idk maybe it's a glitch?  Does the fact that they're War elephants change anything?  IK for sure i didnt mod anything
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Re: Animal Preservation
« Reply #4 on: November 09, 2011, 10:58:52 pm »

I think pet grazers don't need to eat (they follow their owners around, and it'd be a real nuisance to have to schedule your legendary weaponsmith to stand in a field for a while so their pet goat won't starve to death and start a tantrum spiral), so if you manage to tame, train, and assign a war elephant before they starve to death, they'll probably survive.

I'd been wondering whether it was possible to train a war elephant before they starve to death, guess we have the answer.

Did you start with wild elephants, or did you buy from the elves?
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Re: Animal Preservation
« Reply #5 on: November 09, 2011, 11:13:55 pm »

Maybe the world was generated in version 0.31.18 or earlier, back before grazing was added to the game.

Also, while the tame animals will all die on abandon, the dragon will escape and probably be hidden in Ambush when you reclaim.
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« Reply #6 on: November 10, 2011, 03:10:41 am »

I think pet grazers don't need to eat (they follow their owners around, and it'd be a real nuisance to have to schedule your legendary weaponsmith to stand in a field for a while so their pet goat won't starve to death and start a tantrum spiral), so if you manage to tame, train, and assign a war elephant before they starve to death, they'll probably survive.

I'd been wondering whether it was possible to train a war elephant before they starve to death, guess we have the answer.

Did you start with wild elephants, or did you buy from the elves?

I think I've done some research on this earlier, and being war animals definitely does not save grazers from starvation.
Dwarves do really feed their pets, but they are quite lazy to do so. War elephants might survive if they are attached to soldiers and thus made pets. I may suppose one should pick disciplined and compassionate dwarves with no other jobs to feed his elephants.
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Re: Animal Preservation
« Reply #7 on: November 10, 2011, 06:22:50 am »

I think pet grazers don't need to eat (they follow their owners around, and it'd be a real nuisance to have to schedule your legendary weaponsmith to stand in a field for a while so their pet goat won't starve to death and start a tantrum spiral), so if you manage to tame, train, and assign a war elephant before they starve to death, they'll probably survive.

I'd been wondering whether it was possible to train a war elephant before they starve to death, guess we have the answer.

Did you start with wild elephants, or did you buy from the elves?

Started by accidentally catching a wild female that appears to have been pregnant upon capture.  Also all the elephants follow a random farmer around.  My farm is in a greenhouse so the elephants do get a lot of oppertunities to graze.  Not sure if this helps.
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It's really funny watching them do unnecessary surgery because of a wrong diagnosis.
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Re: Animal Preservation
« Reply #8 on: November 10, 2011, 11:52:46 am »

Grazers only eat if you pasture them. My dead yaks stand as proof.
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« Reply #9 on: November 10, 2011, 02:02:53 pm »

Grazers only eat if you pasture them. My dead yaks stand as proof.

Odd. My dead yaks lie down as proof. How do you get yours to stand?
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« Reply #10 on: November 10, 2011, 02:17:27 pm »

Grazers only eat if you pasture them. My dead yaks stand as proof.

Odd. My dead yaks lie down as proof. How do you get yours to stand?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSf9aEETnvE
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« Reply #11 on: November 10, 2011, 02:24:48 pm »

Grazers only eat if you pasture them. My dead yaks stand as proof.

I don't think so. I get the impression that they eat whenever the are on grass. Allows small pets to survive simply by following their owner outside. Works for chained, non pastured animals, too, if my guard bunnies are any indicator. The problem is most of them will go in your underground meeting points and starve there if you don't pasture/chain them outside, and starve there...
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