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[Poindexterity]

i was massacred by beak dogs before i had a hole dug to put my food in.
ever since then, i've stayed away from such places, imagining them to be too difficult for me to mess with.
but it's been a few months, and i think i've gotten pretty good at this game.

should i try it again?

i HAVE been feeling like i kinda need a kick in the ass before i'l start up my military...

[King DZA]

Go for it.

[Poindexterity]

ok, then!
since it's a unanimous vote in favor, I'm gonna go for it. I'll even keep a running log of how it all goes down, along with screenshots, (if someone tells me how to do that).

[Iton Ibrukrithzam]

You should definitely do it again.  You may or may not die horribly within the first few minutes, but if you survive long enough to get underground, you ought to have a good run.  I prefer embarking in Terrifying locales myself, though about half the time it ends in horrible, macabre Fun within the first season.

Also, for screenshots, it ain't elegant, but I've been trading them with my friends just by hitting the print screen key and pasting into microsoft paint.

[Jelle]

Really the only difficult part about such an embark is the very beginning when your dwarves are exposed to the dangerous outside world. Carve out a safe place, line some traps and get a military and surviving in evil places like that should be a cakewalk.
Go for it, best way to learn the value of setting up good defenses quickly!

[Iton Ibrukrithzam]

I'd also recommend bringing a militiadwarf on embark.  Axes tend to be good against undead, in my experience, and definitely find the points to start with a piece of headwear, at least a copper helm, to guard against a lucky kick in the head for said militiadwarf.

[Poindexterity]

6 of my starting 7 were +5 shield and +1 fighter, the 7th did ALL the work except for woodcutting, including making wooden shields for the rest.
we brought enough wood for 7 beds and 6 shields, 6 copper axes, and a butt ton of food and liquor, expecting the worst...

more to follow.

[knutor]

beak dogs... should i try it again?

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I find on those areas, that if I channel around my wagon, then remove all but 1 of the ramps, its a lil safer than running the stuff to a cave mouth.  Atleast until a Harpy shows up.  Then I dig in that trench.  Getting undergournd asap, then move to desired spot, from underground, prefereably from down inside the rock layer, not the loam layer.

Beak dogs make short order of an open fort, I agree.  But don't let that stop you from trying again.  Try again!

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One thing that might help, is if you tame the evil biomes, in the worldgen.  I weight the ratios for evil, the 0-20 I make gradually higher, remove the 80-100, so while its still sinister, I don't get the very nasty invaders as much, as often.  I tend to also tweak up the Semi's and down the FB.  That gives me more flavor more often, and less dire tooth and nail fighting.  The Semi's pause game and show up on edge of map.  Whereass those FB's, they pause game but sometimes appear in the heart of my fortress.  YUCK!

Knutor

spoilerized it

[Teneb]

But FBs bring all those wonderful syndromes!

[King DZA]

Godspeed.

[Poindexterity]

well, its been almost 2 years now, and i must say, im fairly disappointed.
Within the first 6 months, my squad was near legendary, yet the meanest thing ive seen so far has been a dark gnome who did not bother us at all.
i may retry.

[Teneb]

Go deeper. You may end up finding some very intresting skeletal friends.

[Tirion]

Go deeper. You may end up finding some very intresting skeletal friends.

Cavern evilness is totally independent from surface biome, I've had skeletal draltha herds in a calm embark before.

[flamewolf393]

If you start with plenty of wood, seeds, and food it should be easy as you will never have to go above ground at all. Make sure that your food stocks are each at *1, 11, 21, etc to get the extra free barrel.

[Teneb]

Go deeper. You may end up finding some very intresting skeletal friends.

Cavern evilness is totally independent from surface biome, I've had skeletal draltha herds in a calm embark before.

Are you sure? Most of my evil embarks have caves filled with undead creatures.