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[AzuredreamsXT]

The wiki didn't specify as far as i could tell.

[zehive]

built ones are constructions, so yes. engraved ones are just there, so yes.

in summation: yes.

[Sphalerite]

Building destroyers can't destroy fortifications, so the fortifications themselves are safe.  This doesn't necessarily mean that fortifications will keep your dwarves safe.  Fortifications which are completely submerged in water offer no protection - creatures will swim right through them.  I also think, though I'm not sure, that flying forgotten beasts made of mist or smoke can pass right through fortifications.  Of course, fireballs or other projectiles, or vapor/smoke/dust attacks, will also pass right through fortifications.

[peskyninja]

Fortifications offer any kind of protection?

[zehive]

Fortifications offer any kind of protection?

Enemies can't get through unless it's completely submerged. Also it takes skilled marks[race] to fire through them at a distance, while your dorfs right next to it can fire like the happy bearded morons they are.

I believe it doesn't do much again dragonfire though. Or syndrome dust. I haven't personally tested that though

[dr_random]

Building destroyers can't destroy fortifications, so the fortifications themselves are safe.  This doesn't necessarily mean that fortifications will keep your dwarves safe.  Fortifications which are completely submerged in water offer no protection - creatures will swim right through them.  I also think, though I'm not sure, that flying forgotten beasts made of mist or smoke can pass right through fortifications.  Of course, fireballs or other projectiles, or vapor/smoke/dust attacks, will also pass right through fortifications.

I never noticed that and felt quite safe with my water channels. Can someone clarify:
Do creatures path through submerged fortifications?

[zehive]

If they swim they might. But I'm not sure. I mean, if you have goblins riding giant toads or something attacking you, i think you'd be better off with the entire siege jumping into your water channel then anything else

[Sphalerite]

I never noticed that and felt quite safe with my water channels. Can someone clarify:
Do creatures path through submerged fortifications?

Hard to say.  The thing is, submerged tiles are marked as blocked for purposes of pathfinding.  Creatures won't path through water to get to a destination, even if they can swim.  Wandering creatures that can swim will however path through water as they wander around, however, and this wandering seems to ignore fortifications.  So I suspect that creatures won't deliberately travel into your fort through fortifications, but if they happen to randomly wander in submerged fortifications won't stop them.

[Azated]

I never noticed that and felt quite safe with my water channels. Can someone clarify:
Do creatures path through submerged fortifications?

Yes.

[Tevish Szat]

Swimmers in liquid can swim through fortifications submerged to 7/7 of that liquid.  this can be especially important if you were relying on some fortifications to keep your magma reservoir magma-crab and magma-man free: it won't work if the fortification fills to 7/7.

[Satarus]

I've never seen creatures willingly path through fortifications.  I have however seen creatures and objects pushed through by pressure.

[khearn]

I had an interesting experience with fortifications and water yesterday. I had a training room with fortifications on one side:

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WWWWWWWW
X......W
X......D
X......W
W......W
W......W
W......W
W......W
W######W
W......D
WWWWWWWW

W = Wall
. = Floor
D = Door
# = Fortification
X - Floodgate

I had marksdwarves behind the fortifications and cages full of trolls, thieves, etc in the main room. I then flooded the whole thing to 4/7 of water. It never got up to 7/7 at all, since it was flooding from an adjacent room, not from above. Both doors were locked before I flooded it, but several of my marksdwarves and dogs got washed through the fortifications into the main room.

So it doesn't require 7/7 of water to push a creature through fortifications. They were moving through even before it was up to 4/7. I was very annoyed, because I really wanted to combine swimming training with archery training.

[dr_random]

OK, I think a fortress can live with an occasional sneaking in via flooded fortifications. An alarm system would be nice - a shame that we have no sound. A good bell and pressure plate would be very fine to guard far away corridors.

[Aspgren]

I really wanted to combine swimming training with archery training.

Try with grates. or double grates!

[AWellTrainedFerret]

I really wanted to combine swimming training with archery training.

Try with grates. or double grates!

Grates/Bars don't work either, even when they are several tiles thick. A flowing liquids, even a shallow one, can still push a dwarf through. I too attempted to have a swimming training set-up, and it failed when I noticed that someone starved to death because he was trapped in the sewers.

Ultimately, the best way to train swimming is to use the pond activity zone to partly fill a small channeled-out dip in a main hallway.

Edit - Actually, I think I may be wrong, I haven't testes wall grates yet. Will get on that, for !!SCIENCE!!