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[Telgin]

Not sure what the protocol is on spoilers and HFS, so spoiler tags ahoy:

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I dug down to the HFS for the first time yesterday, so I could say that I'd done so.  I'm getting a bit weary of this fort, and figured the inhabitants would quickly clear out my citizens.  That didn't happen though.  The inhabitants completely ignored me.

So, two questions:

1) Is the underworld always at the very bottom of the map?  I struck adamantine at about z-level 65, but my map was about 130 z-levels deep.  I kept digging and digging down into the adamantine, and I struck the underworld at about 5 z-levels from the bottom.  I think I just got lucky with my adamantine spire, but the other two on the map seemed to terminate only about 5 z-levels higher.

2) Why didn't the demons attack my fort?  About 20-30 spawned, according to the units list, but they didn't come up the adamantine spire.  Instead, it looks like they tried to go up another adamantine spire, hit the adamantine, pathed back down and off the map edge.  They never tried to path to the one I opened into the underworld.  I see a few pathing around randomly in the underworld, but they never make a move toward my adamantine spire.  They have wings, so I assume they can fly.

Any thoughts?  Did I just get [un]lucky searching for a glorious end to my fort?

[SirAaronIII]

Sounds like you (un)luckily hit a spire. From what I know the clowns only go up one of the spires on your map (aka the one they tried to go up but hit adamantine) and you apparently didn't dig into that one.

[Telgin]

Yeah, that's what looks like happened.  It's kind of strange that they wouldn't try the spire I actually dug out though.  Looks like most of them were made of steam and ash though, so I might not have been in for as much Fun as I thought anyway.

[Azated]

This happened the first few times I broke into HFS too. I thought they just *sunglasses* chilled in hell. Eventually I got unlucky and they decided to come up and taste fresh air, after tasting my dwarves of course.

Ever since that day, I've avoided candy completely. Not even worth the FPS drop to kill my fortressess either, In my opinion.

[Telgin]

That's another interesting thing.  I was expecting my FPS to drop to nothing after breaching the underworld, but that didn't seem to happen.  It went down a bit, but not much.  I'd give numbers, but I didn't have the display turned on.

I waited a while but they never seemed to gain any interest in the fort so I just force killed DF so I could savescum.  Maybe I'll try again and see what happens this time.

[acetech09]

This happened the first few times I broke into HFS too. I thought they just *sunglasses* chilled in hell. Eventually I got unlucky and they decided to come up and taste fresh air, after tasting my dwarves of course.

Ever since that day, I've avoided candy completely. Not even worth the FPS drop to kill my fortressess either, In my opinion.

If your machine can handle the FPS drop - a simple hatch cover can keep out the hordes of demons. I just make the only entrance to the spire area a 1x1 hatch cover above the stairs, and only assign armored legendary steel-pick miners (not activated, just geared up so they'll be able to hold off the demons while retreating back up the shaft) and peasant haulers to the task.

EDIT: and to the post telgin just did while I was writing mine - your FPS won't drop much if you cut off the mining area from the rest of your fort - if you have a straight shot from the spire to your fort to the surface, then you'll start hitting FPS death by demon pathfinding.