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Author Topic: Does seizing a caravan's goods spark a siege?  (Read 782 times)

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Does seizing a caravan's goods spark a siege?
« on: November 05, 2011, 12:53:41 am »

Or do you have to have numerous slights against a civilization for them to declare war and start sending siege forces
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Re: Does seizing a caravan's goods spark a siege?
« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2011, 12:55:36 am »

Oh, it can. However, seizing their goods gives you so much useless crap. Why not just burn the caravan and take all the non flammables?
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Re: Does seizing a caravan's goods spark a siege?
« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2011, 01:13:16 am »

Mainly "no" because it's difficult to impossible to start a war.  Elves have a diplomat position that comes to you concerning war, but in the current vanilla this has been removed.  You can apparently mod it in and it works as intended, but I've not attempted it.  Humans are also supposed to wage war and send a diplomat to make peace, but I've never heard of this happening after 40d.  Could likely be modded it, no idea.

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Re: Does seizing a caravan's goods spark a siege?
« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2011, 01:25:47 am »

So what are the repercussions of my seizing a human caravan's goods?
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Re: Does seizing a caravan's goods spark a siege?
« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2011, 01:35:38 am »

Try it and find out!

I believe it's been said that humans are rather touchy and won't respond well to thievery (especially if they brought armed guards).
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Re: Does seizing a caravan's goods spark a siege?
« Reply #5 on: November 05, 2011, 01:36:15 am »

So what are the repercussions of my seizing a human caravan's goods?

More guff to sit in the depot. More hauling jobs generated. More things-disallowed-for-trading till they've been decorated or otherwise modified. Possibly later caravans will bring less to the site.
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Re: Does seizing a caravan's goods spark a siege?
« Reply #6 on: November 05, 2011, 02:00:07 am »

You actually seize goods?

I just drown the elves merchants I dislike... If the goods aren't seized, you can sell them to more agreeable merchants later at the price of a few memorial slabs.
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Re: Does seizing a caravan's goods spark a siege?
« Reply #7 on: November 05, 2011, 10:10:29 am »

Humans are also supposed to wage war and send a diplomat to make peace, but I've never heard of this happening after 40d.  Could likely be modded it, no idea.
The humans decided to do some camping on my map after one of their caravans got eaten up by a FB that was freed accidentally made its way to the surface.

About 40 of the surfacedvellers sat around a campfire, singing hippie songs, in one pf the corners of my map for almost 3 seasons, before deciding to take a bath in my magma swimming pool.
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Re: Does seizing a caravan's goods spark a siege?
« Reply #8 on: November 05, 2011, 10:21:50 am »

Mainly "no" because it's difficult to impossible to start a war.  Elves have a diplomat position that comes to you concerning war, but in the current vanilla this has been removed.  You can apparently mod it in and it works as intended, but I've not attempted it.  Humans are also supposed to wage war and send a diplomat to make peace, but I've never heard of this happening after 40d.  Could likely be modded it, no idea.
In vanilla sometimes I received the human diplomat.
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Re: Does seizing a caravan's goods spark a siege?
« Reply #9 on: November 05, 2011, 02:32:58 pm »

In vanilla DF, the humans will send their Law-giver as a diplomat, but only once you've appointed a Baron. If you allow the law-giver to die, then the humans will go to war with you and a new law-giver will eventually propose a peace treaty.
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