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[foolcow]

I really don't like the new system or the default settings.

What value of "mineral scarcity" in the advanced worldgen parameters will most closely approximate the system which existed in 40d?  Any idea?

[Wannazzaki]

100 is absolutely loads of metal ore and gemstones. I always use 100 so im never short of metal wealth (whether i embark on metals i need is another matter entirely)

[foolcow]

So are you telling me that setting it to 100 increases the amount, but not the variety?

So you're likely to get a site with tons and tons of copper, but very little of anything else?

If that is the case, then the answer to my original question is "it's impossible."  I was hoping to find a way for ore to be moderately scarce overall, but to have at least a little of most things in a 3x3 embark.

[Wannazzaki]

So are you telling me that setting it to 100 increases the amount, but not the variety?

So you're likely to get a site with tons and tons of copper, but very little of anything else?

If a site has some copper, tin and hematite, on 100 setting the veins will be many, large and multilayered with fields of blue crystal. on 3200 it will exist in small clusters with lots of useless rock

[dwarfhoplite]

i didnt change it and my map has no metals at all. however i love this because now i value metals more and its nice challenge

[foolcow]

So are you telling me that setting it to 100 increases the amount, but not the variety?

So you're likely to get a site with tons and tons of copper, but very little of anything else?

If a site has some copper, tin and hematite, on 100 setting the veins will be many, large and multilayered with fields of blue crystal. on 3200 it will exist in small clusters with lots of useless rock

If I'm deciphering this correctly, then the answer to my question is, "Yes, it has no effect on the variety."

That's disappointing.

[Wannazzaki]

i suspect it increases the chance of sites having more metal types on generation due to there just being more metal in the world in general but i can't say for sure, i just know the visible effects on swelling clusters to veins.

[Urist Imiknorris]

Go with 100,000. Challenge yourself.

[Ubiq]

If the region that you're going to embark in says "shallow/deep metal" then it doesn't matter what the scarcity is, there will only be one metal in that level of that region regardless of settings and increasing the frequency of mineral deposits will only increase the amount of that one metal.

If you want variety, look for a place that lists "shallow/deep metals" as that means that there will be at least two ores both close to the surface and farther down.

[foolcow]

If the region that you're going to embark in says "shallow/deep metal" then it doesn't matter what the scarcity is, there will only be one metal in that level of that region regardless of settings and increasing the frequency of mineral deposits will only increase the amount of that one metal.

If you want variety, look for a place that lists "shallow/deep metals" as that means that there will be at least two ores both close to the surface and farther down.

I already knew all that.  My question was about the effect of the "mineral scarcity" parameter on mineral variety.

[Sutremaine]

Variety and amount are linked.

http://df.magmawiki.com/index.php/DF2010:Advanced_world_generation#Mineral_Scarcity

[proxn_punkd]

I personally like Frequent minerals. It's right between the rampant minerals of older .31 games and the scarce minerals of post .31.19. I'm almost always guaranteed something weaponable, but also enough normal stone to make normal stone things.