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[eataTREE]

...in the next version will my dwarves actually put on new clothes instead of ignoring acres full of clothing bins while they prance around in tattered rags, like they do now?

Undead. Hmph. You and your 'fantasy' gaming. Give me a functioning textile industry: now THAT'S proper entertainment.

[Ieb]

You could bypass that problem by making a civilian military gear setup and order everyone to wear actual clothes all the time.

But yeah, I hope we'll get the "NEVER REPLACE CLOTHING BY THEMSELVES" bug fixed soon.
Although it's nice to be able to just tell everyone to get on some clothes and maybe carry a weapon too.

[eataTREE]

Unfortunately even that workaround doesn't work with miners and woodcutters... there's another bug where the dwarf is too thick-skulled to realize he can use his military-issue tool to accomplish a civilian task.

Especially via decorations, you can have your dwarves make very cool clothes. But the dwarves will not wear the cool clothes. Dwarves in cool clothes are cooler than dwarves not in cool clothes. Y little man go naked? It gives eataTREE a sad.

[Ieb]

I've never had a problem getting my civvies in civ-squads putting on decorated clothes. The way I see is that they go after the best quality clothing that is around and put that on. If you have stuff decorated, they might not be masterwork pants so they go unused.

Also, I think someone did SCIENCE on miner and woodcutter dorfs and it MIGHT have been that if you tell them to use 2 picks in their military equipment orders, they'll actually carry a pick that they consider a working tool. Can't remember if that was how it went, it's in a thread somewhere in Dwarf Mode forum.

[dirkzen]

Your post came rather close to making my beard angry.
...but.. I do agree.. in a sense.
It would sort of be like playing a different sort of fantasy game with dragons and magic and zombies and things.. but your character couldn't figure out how to put his shoes on.

(..not to say that many a dwarven warrior hasn't slaughtered his foes barefooted before,  but you know what I'm saying.)

That being said.. I think Dwarf Fortress has came quite a long way in the name of 'realism', compared to many other games of this type.
(If DF could be properly given a 'type', that is.. fantasy?  RPG?)
I think suffering a slightly hobbled clothing industry isn't much to ask in a game where you can create a mile-high tower out of soap and cat bones.

[Ieb]

Found the thread for getting miners to use armor AND pickaxes both during work and fighting.

SPREAD THE WORD!
AND LOVE!

Probably works just the same for woodcutters too.
Just replace the pick part with axes.

[eataTREE]

Oh that's cool. Of course it would still be preferable if civilians simply replaced clothing by themselves -- it's not like Fort Mode DF is exactly suffering from a lack of micromanagement. Thanks for the info!

[Mike Mayday]

That being said.. I think Dwarf Fortress has came quite a long way in the name of 'realism', compared to many other games of this type.
(If DF could be properly given a 'type', that is.. fantasy?  RPG?)
I think suffering a slightly hobbled clothing industry isn't much to ask in a game where you can create a mile-high tower out of soap and cat bones.

And that is the very reason why, in games, realism doesn't matter.
It's coherence we're looking for. DF has excessive amounts of the former and (as of now) severe deficiency of the latter.
Oh hey, I'm a poet and I don't know it. Some elf skulls I need to... shatter?

[Reganomics]

Your post came rather close to making my beard angry.
...but.. I do agree.. in a sense.
It would sort of be like playing a different sort of fantasy game with dragons and magic and zombies and things.. but your character couldn't figure out how to put his shoes on.

(..not to say that many a dwarven warrior hasn't slaughtered his foes barefooted before,  but you know what I'm saying.)

That being said.. I think Dwarf Fortress has came quite a long way in the name of 'realism', compared to many other games of this type.
(If DF could be properly given a 'type', that is.. fantasy?  RPG?)
I think suffering a slightly hobbled clothing industry isn't much to ask in a game where you can create a mile-high tower out of soap and cat bones.

It does have a genre.  If you look at all df's predessors like dk1 and 2 in 97 and 99, Startopia in 01, evil genius in 04 among others, it is considered a part of the rts/god/city building genre.

[Deon]

While you complain about clothes (an understandable complaint) please do note that there're now things like adv-mode working dragonfire and new interactions which summarize and unite many different old things in a new pattern.

Tarn has a weird development schedule, but with this new release we still get quite a few old problems solved .

[peskyninja]

While you complain about clothes (an understandable complaint) please do note that there're now things like adv-mode working dragonfire and new interactions which summarize and unite many different old things in a new pattern.

Tarn has a weird development schedule, but with this new release we still get quite a few old problems solved .

He has a development schedule? (PLEASE GREAT TOAD HAVE MERCY!)

[Deimos56]

I think suffering a slightly hobbled clothing industry isn't much to ask in a game where you can create a mile-high tower out of soap and cat bones.

You have to mod to make it out of cat bones, usually... But I have to agree. I just hope he finds time to fix it at some point.

[YetAnotherStupidDorf]

While you complain about clothes (an understandable complaint) please do note that there're now things like adv-mode working dragonfire and new interactions which summarize and unite many different old things in a new pattern.

Translation: MOAR BUGS.

[nenjin]

Cmon now. We really don't need to be trolling each other over this.

[Cruxador]

Cmon now. We really don't need to be trolling each other over this.

Who's trolling? These look like legitimate opinions to me.