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[nepereta]

I've setup a catch-all retreating goblin system by a long winding path the beggining of which has a bridges covering cage traps. When the invasion retreats the goblins are collected by retracting the bridges so the goblins have to path over the cage traps. I was thinking of saving up a few 100 of them to attempt a goblin hfs invasion( I assume they mutually hate each other). Should i attempt to train them before 'embark' using danger rooms? Or would this be pointless?

[Loud Whispers]

I've not noticed a way to train goblins easily, and I'm not sure if they even train at all, but I find I like keeping my goblins alive (spear traps tend too scratch them a little more than I like), so a continuous supply of goats/puppies/honey badgers if you can make great training.

KEEP THEM ARMED >:£

[kardwill]

and I'm not sure if they even train at all,

They do... (shudder at the thought of a certain lashmaster commando after a long human-goblin battle...)

[Loud Whispers]

and I'm not sure if they even train at all,

They do... (shudder at the thought of a certain lashmaster commando after a long human-goblin battle...)

Haha, then splendid! I've not been wasting kittens!

[Vindictus]

Don't be silly- It's impossible to waste kitten! It's the worlds most renewable resource!

[Loud Whispers]

Don't be silly- It's impossible to waste kitten! It's the worlds most renewable resource!

You would be foolish enough to set up kitten breeding programs?

[nepereta]

cool! so in theory I could pit all the gobbos into a 1x1 training room train them continously until I have 200 then expose them to the HFS?

[Loud Whispers]

I guess anything with [can_learn] should be able to train, and yes, you should in theory be able to train them continuously, you'll need a way to release them, then get them into the room first, then survive your training spears. I've just built a system where a goblin has to run across into a closed room, where an animal is, and then I lock the door and start pulling levers.

Now I just need a way to automate it, I think recurring pressureplate/corridor should be simple and efficient ^_^

Though with 200, you should try mass releasing outside your danger room (give them enough room so they don't kill each other), and find a way to draw them in.

[proxn_punkd]

Don't be silly- It's impossible to waste kitten! It's the worlds most renewable resource!

You would be foolish enough to set up kitten breeding programs?

No, he just doesn't bother neutering/spaying them. 

[ImBocaire]

Not only can they train, but it used to be common for trap-hallways to unintentionally train goblin invaders to godly dodging, shield, weapon skill if they got lucky or if the components of the trap were insufficiently lethal.

[Patchy]

Sounds like an ingenious way to beat hfs. Figure out how to get them to equip better gear than what they have, and you may be able to use them to kill initial demon wave for you without any casualties to your dwarves. Dunno if they have enough clothing/armour coverage to deflect all the training spears, but the ones with robes should be able to. After you danger room them, recage them all, and build a contained arena connected to the hfs entrance and put your goblin cage connected to a lever inside. Make sure you can flood the arena with magma afterwards to clean up the mess.

[Loud Whispers]

Sounds like an ingenious way to beat hfs. Figure out how to get them to equip better gear than what they have, and you may be able to use them to kill initial demon wave for you without any casualties to your dwarves. Dunno if they have enough clothing/armour coverage to deflect all the training spears, but the ones with robes should be able to. After you danger room them, recage them all, and build a contained arena connected to the hfs entrance and put your goblin cage connected to a lever inside. Make sure you can flood the arena with magma afterwards to clean up the mess.

I'm not trying to beat HFS, I'm making a nature reserve :3

Well I am going to invade Hell with over 90 cotton candy dwarves.... But that's for another thread!
I am honestly sickened by the constant waste of the opputunity lost in the slaughter of goblins, they make a great conscript army! Not to mention better training! And you have access to a few dozen legendary fully armed goblins to test your military and train your MEDIX

[nepereta]

well I was actually thinking of training room next to a big cistern to flush the gobbos into hell itself ( if that could be designed) and leave them there with no means of getting back up. Close the training room and refill it. This way they can try to keep hell clean on a permanent basis and enjoy the new home I have given them. Gobbos never starve so they will make the perfect defence. MY only worry is that they may walk off the edge of the map first chance they get.

[Loud Whispers]

well I was actually thinking of training room next to a big cistern to flush the gobbos into hell itself ( if that could be designed) and leave them there with no means of getting back up. Close the training room and refill it. This way they can try to keep hell clean on a permanent basis and enjoy the new home I have given them. Gobbos never starve so they will make the perfect defence.

Hmm..... Depends on the type of demons there are, this could swing both ways - the legendary gobbo's could carve their way through all the demons, or be burnt to cinders, on either end of the extreme you'd have a slight nusiance.
As for the reloadable abilities.... Well it's going to be difficult getting the goblins through Hell, I think a simple door would suffice (demons would destroy it, releasing gobbos).

[Loud Whispers]

!!Splendid Idea!!

One of my jewelers just got possessed and made jade door...

Goblins and demons running out of a jade portal to do battle......

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Ha ha, race ya to raising the goblin army! (Mine I think, is going to stay in my fortress for the most part :3)