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Author Topic: Dwarves need Bonfires to have fun  (Read 3252 times)

mikelon

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Dwarves need Bonfires to have fun
« on: October 23, 2011, 12:14:24 am »

What i think dwarf fortress needs is a new building/designation for fires/bonfires,torches.

Add a little ambience to your throne room by supplying it with the warming glow of a bonfire surrounded by thrones where dwarves can relax after a long day of parties and breaks.

Add a little extra fun to the prison by adding a fire underneath the cage to lightly singe the prisoners feet and legs.

Or to purposely burn out large sections of pesky greenery on the 'sniff' surface. Maybe even add a flaming boulder/arrow option to catapults and ballistas to add an extra effect to the warding off  sieges.

It would be a great use for that extra wood you have lying around after your fort doesnt need so many beds and bins. Add a log every season to keep it going, when you purposely douse it produces a unit of ash and charcoal.
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Re: Dwarves need Bonfires to have fun
« Reply #1 on: October 23, 2011, 07:27:54 am »

I think torches should be necessary below the surface. each torch would light certain size of an area and once they run out of fuel (wood, charcoal etc) this part of fortress becomes dark and dwarves are afraid to move there and rather starve than go in to the darkness.
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Re: Dwarves need Bonfires to have fun
« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2011, 08:10:32 am »

...and rather starve than go in to the darkness.

A little extreme, don't you think?
Anyways the OPs suggestion is already planned
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Re: Dwarves need Bonfires to have fun
« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2011, 02:13:14 pm »

WHAT?


They are planning that?

NO. NO.

THAT IS NOT DWARFY?  DONT THEY HAVE BEARDS FOR THAT?
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Re: Dwarves need Bonfires to have fun
« Reply #4 on: October 24, 2011, 07:22:22 am »

S'mores!  That has gotta create a happy thought.

I would like to stoke a fire with an cast iron billow, and release smoke during those horribly destructive archer sieges.  A definite strategic bonus to evasion, should be given to defense when hiding inside an ink cloud.  Images of Indian signal fires on distant mesa's come to view.  "The Salmon are Running!"  This does introduce a rather complex equation, however.  The rate different woods burn, according to their elevation and wind.  Aspen burns like paper in a crosswind.  But a similar sized piece of oak, could take awhile longer to burn through.  Fun!  I'm glad I don't have to code that.  It might take a considerable amount of research at Yosemite.

I'm all for candles, and more decorations.  No more Nyctography.  I was under the impression Dwarfs had some extra sensory ability within their eyeballs, that sunlight dwellers hadn't developed.  *shrug*

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Re: Dwarves need Bonfires to have fun
« Reply #5 on: October 25, 2011, 09:52:20 am »

Knutor, keep your pants on! :P
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Re: Dwarves need Bonfires to have fun
« Reply #6 on: October 26, 2011, 05:36:50 pm »

If torches were to run out then only once a year and a block of charcoal can refill 30 torches. PERIOD!

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Re: Dwarves need Bonfires to have fun
« Reply #7 on: October 27, 2011, 07:11:17 pm »

this part of fortress becomes dark and dwarves are afraid to move there and rather starve than go in to the darkness.
I think it would be better if the areas went dark only to the player, with items inside not being processed as much by the game. Perhaps they could be taken off the list for building and for workshop tasks, which would allow players to have a healthy store of items without having them slow the game down.

Food, drink, and built items would be exempt from this, and torch status would be on the stocks screen like food and drink. Otherwise you'd be having sections of the fortress going dark without warning, and that would just be irritating.
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Re: Dwarves need Bonfires to have fun
« Reply #8 on: October 27, 2011, 08:22:09 pm »

Wouldn't fires indoors produce a carp ton of smoke, not to mention dwarves are cave adapted, they see well in the dark already, if anything lights in the dark would blind them.

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Re: Dwarves need Bonfires to have fun
« Reply #9 on: October 28, 2011, 10:21:27 pm »

Yup.  Underground smoke should produce miasma like angry thoughts, from the lack of oxygen, not lack of light.  Dwarfs are used to being hole burrowing blind-moles.  I'd love to use smoke and fire in traps.  And on the tips of bolts.  It would also be nice for drying meat and fish.  I'd like to see the bolts moved to the bowyer instead of craftsdwarf workshop, however..  Perspectively, it makes more sense to be there.  In its place on craftsdwarf, put a throwing axe, or some other thrown wpn.  Darts, maybe.  Just my .02

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Re: Dwarves need Bonfires to have fun
« Reply #10 on: October 28, 2011, 10:24:37 pm »

You mad? Those poor light sensitive eyes in the darkness compared to the burning piles of wood... They'd be getting eye damage so quickly you wouldn't be able to say look out for that fire in time :/

Also, the smoke would be the biggest problem... Unless you were talking lots of bonfires. But that would be too finnicky to add.

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Re: Dwarves need Bonfires to have fun
« Reply #11 on: October 28, 2011, 11:35:18 pm »

I don't think their eyes are sensitive to light, because they walk around in broad daylight all the time.  And I think torches would produce a lot less smoke than the indoor furnaces.
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Re: Dwarves need Bonfires to have fun
« Reply #12 on: October 28, 2011, 11:37:24 pm »

I don't think their eyes are sensitive to light, because they walk around in broad daylight all the time.  And I think torches would produce a lot less smoke than the indoor furnaces.
*Depends on the furnace.
**Also, that's before they're cave adadapted.

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Re: Dwarves need Bonfires to have fun
« Reply #13 on: October 29, 2011, 04:03:53 am »

While this does sound awesome, I hope if its put in that its disableable in the options.  For the low end machines, like mine.
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Re: Dwarves need Bonfires to have fun
« Reply #14 on: December 31, 2011, 07:13:32 am »

Wouldn't fires indoors produce a carp ton of smoke, not to mention dwarves are cave adapted, they see well in the dark already, if anything lights in the dark would blind them.

one word:

chimneys

yes, add a chimney to the surface. Smoke will bellow out driving all the wildlife away, or maybe choking sieges in smoke traps.
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