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[Necro910]

Lesson Zero is my favourite episode of all the ones released so far.

It's my second least favorite of the entire series



Anywho, weird revelation of the day: I've been playing an idiot idealistic hero in a roleplaying game, and today I realized, after buying ~400 milkshakes and putting it on the mafia's tab, that I'm essentially roleplaying Pinkie Pie. Just a Pinkie Pie that shouts "truth and justice" every once in a while and has a laser sword.

What are you smoking playing and where can I get some?

[Silfurdreki]

So, when did everypony become a brony/pegasister?
As for me, November 2010.

I can trace the first time I was exposed to anything pony-related back to a post on this very forum. I watched the first episode, and soon after, what was released of season 1. I've been hooked since.

[kaijyuu]

We're (loosely) playing BESM with a space opera themed campaign. I'm the idiot who works for the mafia and thinks he's spreading justice as a galactic hero, while everyone else is a sadistic jackass that manipulates him.* His pinkie pie moments include always shouting his intentions to people wanting to kill him (eg: we're here to take back what you stole from the mafia! Could you hand it to us?), playing an "announcer" when he hijacked the intercom on what was supposed to be a stealth mission, and the aforementioned milkshakes.

*Well actually they might be coming around to my side a bit; we ditched the mafia this very session, so maybe we'll do some actual heroic things! Unlikely, though.

[Dsarker]

Lesson Zero is the greatest episode ever. How could you not like it?

[Flying Dice]

Lesson Zero is the greatest episode ever. How could you not like it?

For me it was mainly OOC Rarity.

[LordBucket]

How could you not like it?

This was discussed rather thoroughly in the previous thread. Most reasons tended to fall into one of three categories:

1) Creepy off-model Twilight is creepy.
2) They're trying too hard to be memetastic.
3) Characters are behaving out of character.

[LordBucket]

For me it was mainly OOC Rarity.

How did you feel about Nightmare Night? Since apparently they decided not to bother including Rarity at all.

This is at the heart of my disappointment with the new direction the show is  taking. It's my favorite characters that are being ignored and abused by out of characterness. If Twilight were my favorite, it probably wouldn't bother me so much, but she's amongst my least favorite. I love Pinkie Pie. Lesson Zero, she had four lines in the entire episode, half of them were out of character, and they gave Spike some of her Pinkie-being-Pinkieness. Nightmare Night she had lines, but her whole personality seemed off.

Rarity's another favorite of mine, and she got even worse treatment. She's the classy, elegant one. In Lesson Zero all she did was freak out over stupid little things. Does it make sense for Rarity, the pony who took completely in stride being kidnapped into slavery by diamond dogs, to cry herself silly over being unable to find a ribbon that was on the floor? Does it makes sense for Rarity, the pony who mocked Twilight for overeating to losing the mice for the Gala, to suddenly have her whole character be defined by overreacting over every little thing she can? Three times in the same episode? And then Nightmare Night rolls around and they completely axe her from the episode.

Meh.

[Dsarker]

Lesson Zero is the greatest episode ever. How could you not like it?

For me it was mainly OOC Rarity.

Rarity weren't no OOC. She's overly dramatic before she gets on with business. That's how she's always been.

Twilight's not off model.

What do you mean, Memetastic?

Characters aren't out of character.

[kaijyuu]

Twilight's not off model.

Yes, yes she was. Not the unintentional version, though.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/OffModel

However, Tropes Are Not Bad. Cartoonist John Kricfalusi has repeatedly stated that "staying on model is only for wimps and communists", or more subtly, if you don't break the character's model to emphasize some emotions, it'd be just as good done live action. The result of staying true to off-model animation is fantastic, in Kricfalusi's case. Walt Disney Animation Australia and Star Toons are also examples. However, their use of it is Depending on the Artist taken Up to Eleven, rather than accidental off model.

The crazy faces are anything but normal expressions. In fact it could be argued the wonky eyes seen sometimes (like in pinkie's breakdown) are minor examples of them going off model for added "expressiveness." Go too far and you get good old narm, which is exactly what happened in Lesson Zero. 

[Dsarker]

I loved Lesson Zero.

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[Masked_Hunter1825]

Though it feels odd being here, allow me to say that while I dislike the show itself, the animation i've seen is not to bad. But thats about it.

[Kaiser]

Though it feels odd being here, allow me to say that while I dislike the show itself, the animation i've seen is not to bad. But thats about it.

Thats what everypony said...

[Zangi]

I'm of the opinion that Rarity was OOC and crazy Twilight was painful to watch.

Didn't we have an argumentdiscuss this very same thing earlier?

[Masked_Hunter1825]

No, I don't like the show. Animation is alright but like I said thats as far as it goes. Watched 1 episode because I wanted to see what the damn deal was about. Nothing too much imo. But, everyone has diffirent likes hm?

Also, if possible Necro.. TONE DOWN THE DAMN PONY PICTURES ON OTHER THREADS. Now, I shall leave. Beating people with their own limbs awaits!

EDIT: Applejacks is a boss in TF2, and I hate fighting her.

[Sordid]

The animation in this season in general feels really weird. It's probably because they have a bigger budget, so they do more complex stuff with the faces and so on.
Still looks weird to me. I preferred it when it was simple.
And yes, I'm essentially going "they improved it, now it sucks" here.