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Voting closed: October 22, 2011, 08:25:54 pm

[Sheb]

Well, I don't know about you, but I'd sure try to prevent the fortress to crash while I'm in the fucking bridge.

Also, if you have to be arrogant, please try to at least be right. If you smugly said that you edited the text while you didn't, you cannot escape by saying "Sorry if I forgot to edit things for you". Not after being all smug and insulting because you said you edited it.

You seems to have a problem with judging other people, we aren't stupid. If you keep insinuating we are, you cannot expect us to like or respect you. And if you don't admit to your mistake and try to correct them, we cannot trust you.

[Ehndras]

How about everyone stop fighting and give Pyro a break. Its not easy to coordinate a dozen people in a complex battle plan when everyone keeps changing their damn mind, making demands, and everything has to be run through the GM.

Sheb, you haven't been here long enough to know how things work. Pyro might be impatient but if you're not an asshole, he's very understanding and does all he can to make things work properly.

Areyoua, relax. Please. Seriously.

[PyroDesu]

Thank you, Ehndras.

At least three people here knows that this is not easy, and two more are learning.

[Ehndras]

Thank you, Ehndras.

At least three people here knows that this is not easy, and two more are learning.

And Pyro, you chill the hell out too. Though I count you among my closest friends of Bay12, you remind me too much of myself as a teen; full of plans and ideas, and impatient with those who cannot keep up with your active mind.

Relaaaaaaax, man. Even if all doesn't go according to plans, don't worry about it. This is a game, my friend, and we're here to be entertained, not be further stressed.

[ashton1993]

Relaaaaaaax, man.

You high? Nah just kidding, you make a good point - people's need to chill the fuck out and thus to do so I advise you to watch this amusing video, only problem is most of you guys aren't British so these guys aren't actually celebrities too most of you, OK what about Sir Alan Sugar? Same kinda thing but even more amusing video and then I shall leave you with the universally entertaining Sexy Sax Man, and that ladies and gentemen is the wonder of Youtube, now do what Ehndras said and chill the fuck out and I'd advise you to go out and smoke some weed or some shit like that but I don't know if that's actually legal, ah shucks  MEGA-TURN UPDATE PROGRESSING slowly -_-

[PyroDesu]

Bloody hell!

Alright, I'll relax. I do tend to go a little overboard when people contest good plans.

[Zako]

Goddamn, the things you people watch...

[Sheb]

Yeah, right, we're a team after all, and a well-run mediocre plan is much better than a team of jackass bickering about which plan is the best.

Not to say that your plan isn't good, if we don't go into betraying everybody.

Enhdras, I've been lurking since the beginning, so I kinda know what's going on. Doesn't mean I agree with it, but hell, we're a team, we gotta keep together.

P.S. Pyro, just to make things clear, once you get control of AM, what will we do with it? Handing it over to the people from MP?

[Ehndras]

Yeah, right, we're a team after all, and a well-run mediocre plan is much better than a team of jackass bickering about which plan is the best.

Not to say that your plan isn't good, if we don't go into betraying everybody.

Enhdras, I've been lurking since the beginning, so I kinda know what's going on. Doesn't mean I agree with it, but hell, we're a team, we gotta keep together.

P.S. Pyro, just to make things clear, once you get control of AM, what will we do with it? Handing it over to the people from MP?

BAHAHAHAH.


"Hey, guys who nearly murdered us all, here's a sky flying fortress. We'll take a dozen shotguns and some scrap metal for our 4-5 crew deaths, countless bullets shed, serious risk to our lives, and little help from the HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE ON THE MP. Thanks."

Yeah, right. Fuck MP, in my opinion.

[Zako]

Unfortunately, we don't really get a choice in the matter. There's just too many of them, and too little of us.

[Sheb]

Zako. You don't get it. Once we take over the AM (including, I hope, some of its crew) we'll have a flying fortress under our command. We'll also have the Jenny and a some more blimps (Because men of ours are going to man theirs). The MP will be far away from both the battlefield and the Hope (The Hope will be on the battlefield) since we're taking the fight to them.

Since the MP is slower than the Hope (And I guess slower than the AM as well, but even if not the AM can go over the sea and give them the finger) they can only get to us using their little, weaponless townlet. Those we can blast from the sky.

So basically there may be many of them, but down there they cannot hurt us. There is nothing they can do about us keeping the AM.

So yeah, why refusing it? We could become Sky Pirates people!

[Zako]

Ok, let me get this straight: you want to take over an entire flying fortress, full of people and armed guards that are hostile to us, and perfectly control it with 10 people, almost half of which are not even going to actually BE on it? And even if we pull that off, you want us to defend it from a FLEET of hostile blimps full of armed and angry people coming to get us?

You are out of your mind. I can understand stealing a blimp or plane, that's manageable, but this is just not possible between our small group! We don't have enough people to pull it off, it's simple and you seem to be ignoring this fact.

[Tidal]

Solution: Get MORE minions!

[Sheb]

So, let's solve those problems.

1) Figthing an hostile fleet of blimp

The MP got 6 armed blimps, similar to the Jenny Haniver. At least two of those will be staffed by us. That means they got 4 blimps against our 3, plus the AM. We can definitely kick their ass, especially if we used surprise. We may get some planes/blimp out of the AM as well.

2) Taking over the fortress

Taking AM over is what Pyro, Sgt Mason and the God Mother want us to do. The current plan is to make a diversion on the deck while a commando storm the bridge and force their surrender. We're going to take that ship or die trying, this we agree on, what we're discussing here is what to do with our prize.

3) Controlling the Airfortress with 10 7 people.

When you look at the AM, you can actually see 3 Jenny-class blimp and what should be 3 pixels. That gives you a sense of scale.

Spoiler: AM and MP side to side (click to show/hide)

If you exclude the flight deck, the AM is about half the size of the MP. How many people would we need to run that? A mechanic, a pilot/captain, 2-3 gunners, 1 person to operate other systems... Total: 5-6 persons. That leaves us 2 people to run blimp/planes. Of course, that's the bare minimum. We wouldn't be able to make repair, man all the guns,  use our other blimps... That's where Edio's solution comes in.

As far as we know, the AM will be run in the same way the MP was. An elite ruling a people. We may perfectly well get some of them to join us. Hell, even some of the MP soldiers could join. If we are ever to grow in power beyong our current level, we need underlings.

So yeah, I'd like our people in the MP blimps to chat with the MP men and see if some of them would join.



EDIT: I totally forgot the best point: 4) Sky Pirate Dude!

[Ehndras]

I SECOND THAT INSANE IDEA.