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Kurtisk1

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« on: October 20, 2011, 12:55:37 pm »

I've been wondering this, why is it when dwarves die, that all their clothes go flying off and why do they want to be buried naked?  My only theory for the dying part is that there is some sort of static electricity from their beard that causes their clothes to stay on but for some reason that force is eliminated the moment they die causing clothes to fall off.
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Re: Death
« Reply #1 on: October 20, 2011, 12:58:30 pm »

It's to simulate the act of the dwarves stripping them bare because they are a bunch of kleptomanic vultures.
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Re: Death
« Reply #2 on: October 20, 2011, 12:59:36 pm »

I've been wondering this, why is it when dwarves die, that all their clothes go flying off and why do they want to be buried naked?  My only theory for the dying part is that there is some sort of static electricity from their beard that causes their clothes to stay on but for some reason that force is eliminated the moment they die causing clothes to fall off.

You're close. When a dwarf makes clothes, they don't use thread. This is simply because the static caused by their beards is strong enough that they don't need it. When they put clothes on, they just stick the pieces to their bodies, and they hang there as long as the dwarf moves enough to keep a constant level of static. However, when the dwarf goes insane, he feels that the static is out to get him, and promptly tears off everything it is in "contact" with. When they die, they obviously run out of juice, so the clothes fall to the floor, no longer effected by the beard static.
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Re: Death
« Reply #3 on: October 20, 2011, 01:00:55 pm »

How does metal stick then?
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Re: Death
« Reply #4 on: October 20, 2011, 01:01:29 pm »

What if it isn't the beard that is sentient?

What if it is the socks?

Wouldn't that explain almost everything?
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Re: Death
« Reply #5 on: October 20, 2011, 01:02:03 pm »

How does metal stick then?
The strong nuclear force, harnesses by the power of dwarven beards.
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Re: Death
« Reply #6 on: October 20, 2011, 01:31:52 pm »

this isnt really on topic, but it does sorta deal with dwarven death...
so ive been seeing a lot of 'goblins are the good guys' threads and of course the ever present 'i skewered my dwarf on a silver goblet for ‼science‼'
the fact that ive seen so many of these threads has gotten me thinking, now what if, bear with me here, what if goblins are actually reincarnated dwarves out for revenge against us, their previos masters and glorius overlords
but that just raises even more questions? why do dwarves follow all our orders but goblins ignore everything we tell them to do? lets look at the main differences between dwarves and goblins, first off goblins lack the all important dwarven beard, and in addition to that they are also markedly less drunk and tend to not die of natural causes, whereas dwarves suffer (i use that term lightly) from all the aforementioned.
this all leads me to believe that dwarven beards are actually insidious mind control devices powered by booze that slowly suck the life out of a dwarf, i mean what other than mind control could explain why dwarves would willingly dig into a magma pipe knowing full well it could cost them their life? not to mention all the rediculous things they do such as the ‼dwarf‼ running off to the booze stores to get a drink, what sane being would do that? certainly not one in control of its own faculties i assure you.
this leads me to my next point, what happens to a dwarf without booze? simple, they tend to go 'insane' but if everything ive said before this is right then that means its actually the beard mind control device has run out of power, doesnt it? what if the 'insane' dwarves are actually the sane ones? i mean, if you had no control over yourself from birth then one day suddenly realized that you have control, wouldnt that just flip your world on its side?

anyways in conclusion, goblins are reincarnated beardless dwarves bent on destruction of the player and release of more dwarves from thier mind slavery
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Re: Death
« Reply #7 on: October 20, 2011, 01:37:02 pm »

they don't go insane without booze, they just work slower.

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Re: Death
« Reply #8 on: October 20, 2011, 01:47:16 pm »

I've been wondering this, why is it when dwarves die, that all their clothes go flying off and why do they want to be buried naked?
The "mundane" reason is because Toady hasn't implemented "corpses-as-containers", which would permit items to remain attached to dead creatures.

Relevant quote from "Future of the Fortress" talk:
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Will raised undead have the clothes, equipments and weapons they had when they died? Or will they be naked?

The way it currently works I would think they would be naked, but it would be nice to have them using the equipment they had when they died.

The corpse-as-container is a little messy for dwarf mode, since you want to get those items back into circulation and they'd be one step removed from all the current code that addresses ground objects.  Because there are bag/bins/etc., and dwarves dip into them regularly, I don't think it is an impossible change, but I'm pretty sure lots of things would break if I just went ahead with it, so I've avoided it this time around to prevent further delays.  It has been on my mind and is really necessary for them to work well, and for the game to make sense.  I'm not sure when it's going to happen.  It has been a desired feature for a long time, and the zombie animation makes it moreso.  It's kind of like the move/attack speed split.  Necessary, with a sort of nebulous fix-up time that constantly sees it pushed off for years.
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Re: Death
« Reply #9 on: October 20, 2011, 01:50:50 pm »

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Translating they work slower because they're busy throwing their own children at axes, so resuming, they go insane without booze.
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Re: Death
« Reply #10 on: October 20, 2011, 01:57:45 pm »

they usually don't have that many children

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« Reply #11 on: October 20, 2011, 02:30:24 pm »

Actually - once dwarves go to the underworld, their beards separate and try to find a new host - once separated, the dwarves realize the absolute monstrosities that you force upon them, and vow revenge.
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Re: Death
« Reply #12 on: October 20, 2011, 02:51:57 pm »

Reincarnated dwarves, you say? That does sound like the type of shenanigans Armok would pull...

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Re: Death
« Reply #13 on: October 20, 2011, 03:26:41 pm »

With their final breath, every dwarf rips his clothes off and flashes his willy at the world.
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Re: Death
« Reply #14 on: October 20, 2011, 03:48:32 pm »

With their final breath, every dwarf rips his clothes off and flashes his willy at the world.

They have TWO BEARDS. You have to catch a dwarf in his death throes to see it.
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