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[Kay]

Well, he is a child of the gods. What did you expect?

Limbs that can't be pulled off by a fish, for starters...

Isn't a Shark a fish?

Actually, no, not technically at least. Sharks are often lumped in with fish, but they're not fish. They're sharks.

[scriver]

Actually, no, not technically at least. Sharks are often lumped in with fish, but they're not fish. They're sharks.

Technically, sharks are part of the Elasmobranchii subclass of cartilaginous fish which is, unsurprisingly, a class of fish.

Sharks are fish. All other types of fish are equally not just fish as sharks is.

[Matheld]

Cheese... raises stats and skills?

Cheese-raising... What exactly does that mean?

Danger room, throwing rocks at woodland creatures until legendary, wrestling woodland creatures until legendary

[Eric Blank]

Hmm. I must say those are more training exercises than anything. A danger room being an automated attack dummy (You can just have it flop around loosely and it'll be SOMEWHAT like some retard swinging at you...), throwing rocks being legitimate training for... Throwing crap.
But wrestling woodland creatures is just suicidal! Who would be crazy enough to do that? Every turn could be your last!

[Vindictus]

I had a demigod once. Because of the skills I got during gen, I was able to take down a troll that appeared right outside of town during travel.

Then when I tried wrestling a chipmunk, it bit out my throat.

Multiple occasions of that happening, vs my peasants who take down FBs by themselves with thrown rocks, have convinced me that there is a hidden 'Luck' stat designed solely to screw over demigod level characters.

So naturally, I only ever play as Demigods now.

What? Loosing is fun ^_^

[Igfig]

I usually play demigods, but I put the extra skill points into things I would have spent a while levelling up anyway (fighter, wrestler, swimmer, ambusher) and the extra attribute points into making my dump stats less dumpy.  I end up nearly identical to a hero who's spent a couple days cross-training.

[tyrannus007]

Is there a way to get rid of skill caps for heroes and peasants? I think they should be able to reach demigod status through hard work.

If anything, demigods die faster than the peasants.

Can't for the life of me imagine why.

This could be because people are more cautious with peasants than with demigods.

[Sutremaine]

Skills are capped according to their starting values. The default for dwarves is 200% or the median value, whichever is higher. This can be altered by tweaking the raws. Creating a new caste with uncapped potential and then setting its population ratio to zero would probably leave it available for adventurer mode and not fortress mode, since a caste with a zero pop ratio can be selected in the arena.

[Rumrusher]

Skills are capped according to their starting values. The default for dwarves is 200% or the median value, whichever is higher. This can be altered by tweaking the raws. Creating a new caste with uncapped potential and then setting its population ratio to zero would probably leave it available for adventurer mode and not fortress mode, since a caste with a zero pop ratio can be selected in the arena.

I thought any caste, creature can be selected in the arena if they don't have the restricted arena tag?

[Eric Blank]

Exactly the principle he's working off of, along with setting their pop ratio to zero which means they would never spawn naturally. Or does it? Have you done this before, Sutremaine?

[Sutremaine]

I checked if they were selectable in the arena by temporarily modifying an animal. I just tried it on an adventurer, and since you can't select your caste manually (was this choice available in previous versions? I'm certain it was, but maybe it got lost in the move to .31) you have to go back into the raws after worldgen and mess with the pop ratio so you have a chance of getting the right caste. Here's what I added to the civ creature raw for worldgen:

[USE_CASTE:TEST:FEMALE]
[CASTE_NAME:TEST:TESTS:TEST]
[POP_RATIO:0]

That gave me 5 TESTS over ~200 pages of historical figures (surprising, I was expecting none), and it wasn't until I went back and changed that 0 to 100 that I was able to roll a TEST.

[Rumrusher]

I checked if they were selectable in the arena by temporarily modifying an animal. I just tried it on an adventurer, and since you can't select your caste manually (was this choice available in previous versions? I'm certain it was, but maybe it got lost in the move to .31) you have to go back into the raws after worldgen and mess with the pop ratio so you have a chance of getting the right caste. Here's what I added to the civ creature raw for worldgen:

[USE_CASTE:TEST:FEMALE]
[CASTE_NAME:TEST:TESTS:TEST]
[POP_RATIO:0]

That gave me 5 TESTS over ~200 pages of historical figures (surprising, I was expecting none), and it wasn't until I went back and changed that 0 to 100 that I was able to roll a TEST.

what do you mean can't select the caste manually? it's 'g' after you set up your stats and before you start your adventure.
if you mean in arena mode, then well you have to check on the name of the creature caste(usually they are place in alphabetical order based on their RAW names(then order of the caste in the raws), then there some weird cases)

oh wait you mean for the pop cap, well deon set his raws up on birth ratio and usually if you set it to a near impossible number you won't have chances of seeing super dwarves in bandit camps.
though best talk to deon on it.

[Duntada Man]

I think it's a bit cheap, but ok under certain circumstances. Such as:

Breaching the place of eternal spoiler

Fighting in a world with massive savagery and a long worldgen (since only the strongest people remain)

Revenge against a megabeast

Genocide.

It ia my dream to one day create a peasant that will become boss of the hidden fun stuff, but yes, some megabeasts MUST be taken by demigods.

[JDF117]

I had a demigod once. Because of the skills I got during gen, I was able to take down a troll that appeared right outside of town during travel.

Then when I tried wrestling a chipmunk, it bit out my throat.

Multiple occasions of that happening, vs my peasants who take down FBs by themselves with thrown rocks, have convinced me that there is a hidden 'Luck' stat designed solely to screw over demigod level characters.

So naturally, I only ever play as Demigods now.

What? Loosing is fun ^_^

  Nothing protects the throat but a cloak. Luckily you can wear six of them.
AND YOU THOUGHT THE DUNGEON MASTER WAS MAD!

[Deimos56]

I had a demigod once. Because of the skills I got during gen, I was able to take down a troll that appeared right outside of town during travel.

Then when I tried wrestling a chipmunk, it bit out my throat.

Multiple occasions of that happening, vs my peasants who take down FBs by themselves with thrown rocks, have convinced me that there is a hidden 'Luck' stat designed solely to screw over demigod level characters.

So naturally, I only ever play as Demigods now.

What? Loosing is fun ^_^

  Nothing protects the throat but a cloak. Luckily you can wear six of them.
AND YOU THOUGHT THE DUNGEON MASTER WAS MAD!

He is mad. Just in a manner that protects him surprisingly well.