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Author Topic: COBALTITE has canquered the world  (Read 10954 times)

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Re: COBALTITE has canquered the world
« Reply #45 on: October 18, 2011, 12:00:49 pm »

I'd rather wait for curses, and make the hammer slowly mutate its wielder into some chemical nightmare.

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Re: COBALTITE has canquered the world
« Reply #46 on: October 18, 2011, 12:10:04 pm »

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Re: COBALTITE has canquered the world
« Reply #48 on: October 18, 2011, 12:39:40 pm »

You'd have to sacrifice a dwarf to use it.  Unless you managed to get the heatdamage point specific and could utilize a delayed explosion.  Or design it so that magma running under the floor would overheat it.  And 999 temperature isn't that hot, honestly.

999 is only around 9% of the body temperature of dwarves. An item that cold would instantaneously turn anyone near it into a popsicle. :P
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Re: COBALTITE has canquered the world
« Reply #49 on: October 18, 2011, 01:37:00 pm »

You'd have to sacrifice a dwarf to use it.  Unless you managed to get the heatdamage point specific and could utilize a delayed explosion.  Or design it so that magma running under the floor would overheat it.  And 999 temperature isn't that hot, honestly.
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Re: COBALTITE has canquered the world
« Reply #50 on: October 18, 2011, 02:07:49 pm »

Personally, I feel like modding in cobalt, it's a nice color.

Yeah, I've been considering adding in cobalt glass, myself. The refining process for cobalt is pretty toxic, producing an equal amount of arsenic, but we ignore that for other metals, so it's not much of a stretch to ignore it for cobalt. I don't think I'd want to mod in any other uses of cobalt for producing items...it's sometimes useful in minute amounts in alloys, but, reading between the lines of the Wikipedia article, I suspect it's too hard and brittle for practical use as a pure metal.

As a pigment, cobalt blue glass is called "smalt", chemical formula CoKSi, it's also sometimes crushed into powder to make a blue pigment for painting (if anyone wants to mod in painting). The real life reaction is cobalt oxide + pearlash + sand = blue glass (and presumably some stuff that gasses off).

The (non-glass) pigment "cobalt blue" involves aluminum, and is a bit unrealistic for dwarves to be producing.

So it wouldn't be that hard to imagine dwarves making it: smelt some cobaltite to cobalt, if you want the reaction could also realistically produce 1/10 iron or 1/10 nickel (perhaps as a random chance), then cobalt + pearlash + sand at a glass furnace to produce blue glass.

I'd also want to add in 'ruby gold' glass, but I'm not sure it's realistic...it apparently requires aqua regia, a mixture of powerful acids not produced until the renaissance, in order to prepare the gold for integration into the glass.
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Re: COBALTITE has canquered the world
« Reply #51 on: October 18, 2011, 03:13:13 pm »

Actually, arsenic would be a pretty great side product. Think about arsenic-dipped crossbow bolts, for example.
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Re: COBALTITE has canquered the world
« Reply #52 on: October 18, 2011, 03:14:07 pm »

Actually, arsenic would be a pretty great side product. Think about arsenic-dipped crossbow bolts, for example.
Unfortunately, poison coated weapons do not work for dwarves.  :(

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Re: COBALTITE has canquered the world
« Reply #53 on: October 18, 2011, 03:20:59 pm »

Actually, arsenic would be a pretty great side product. Think about arsenic-dipped crossbow bolts, for example.

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Re: COBALTITE has canquered the world
« Reply #54 on: October 18, 2011, 03:22:55 pm »

Explosive bolts work though.  And weapons, I assume.  When they get the stuck-in event, they assume body temperature, and can ignite.

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Re: COBALTITE has canquered the world
« Reply #55 on: October 18, 2011, 03:25:17 pm »

Explosive bolts work though.  And weapons, I assume.  When they get the stuck-in event, they assume body temperature, and can ignite.
Or they can boil/melt and give a syndrome such as severity 9999999999 bleeding  :P

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Re: COBALTITE has canquered the world
« Reply #56 on: October 19, 2011, 02:52:35 am »

Personally I can see arsenic as a more ad hoc solution to impossible mandates if anyone were (comparatively) feeling merciful.
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