I'll say this first. On the start of N1, think says (not exact quote) "people with actions, send them in." N2 he says "Power roles and Mafia send in actions." This really seems to suggest power roles to me, I don't know why people would think otherwise.
"Not at this point in the game. Doctor only has at most one more night to operate anyway. The cop needs to stay alive tonight, so the doctor will protect him, the cop investigates either of the two other players, the doctor will die, and the game goes into lylo with the cop having the answer. That gives the town the best possible odds. So the doctor HAS to claim so the cop knows who not to investigate."
Makes sense, Remalle. My bad.
Shake, i'm not considering Remalle being a godfather because he's hunted well, and purely statistically, there's a 5.55% chance.
Also, "Shark: I'm not really liking your reasoning here. You're admitting that there are possibilities of Andrew lying and Remalle being a godfather, but you're choosing to ignore that. I would expect that LYLO is a time to be *very* cautious and examine things in detail, but your behavior doesn't seem to be reflecting that. Also, you didn't address my point about roles being guaranteed because of Think's line. "
In this time to be "very cautious" you're basically OMGUSing. Your vote boils down to me not being cautious enough. You don't address my reasons for that I have legitimate reasons to vote shoes at all. You're ignoring what I say about him, and you're telling me it seems "nervous." Do you believe I shouldn't be voting shoes? He hasn't done ANYTHING, and all he's done recently is yell at andrew. If andrew is telling the truth, shoes is yelling at the cop for helping the town out. Shoes is just really scummy, no matter if andrew is lying or not.
In this mess, you're telling us to BE CAUTIOUS? This is the time to be active, we can't screw up. If we sit around, nothing will get done. You're trying to slow us down. Even if andrew is lying, shoes is still a good choice, and some of your argument against me involves that i'm being too hasty. I don't know what we're waiting for but i'm going to do my best to convince everyone to hang shoes because I think he's far scummier than andrew, remalle, and you.
You seem to be angry at me for voting shoes when you're telling me to be cautious, yet you're not displaying the same caution you say I should be doing. You voted before me, and your vote didn't really have meat behind it. It was "I feel like" "It seems like" this and that, and LYLO is not the time for things that seem suspicious. It's for things that are suspicious.
This doesn't really involve if andrew's lying or not anymore. You're going after me, being vague about how i'm "jumpy" and "nervous", and voting me. Good job "examining things in detail" like you're telling me to. Also, you call me "less collective" just because i'm posting more often then I usually do. It's LYLO, i'm going to be as active as possible. (Until skyrim comes out)
Unless shoes defends himself or someone else does, I will continue my case against him.
Remalle points out how bad the scum plays were, killing the IC's. It's either a lazy thing to do or a just bad thing to do. From shoes, and drakon before his replacement, we have seen a combination of bad and lazy.
Also, main reason I believe andrew, once again, is because he doesn't have too much to gain. The only thing I can see happening is if he's scum and he doesn't care if his partner dies, but that's risky as hell to me, because if he is scum, he could have made a better claim. Call two living people innocent. Get the person he wants dead, dead. If he is scum, I seriously doubt remalle would be his partner from what we saw D2. The claim is just not useful enough to him if he's lying, because of the chance of a counterclaim.
I could be wrong but any way I look at it andrew is probably the cop, and knowing who he's investigated and who I am, this means I've found the scum. Starting with shoes. You want me to not lead a lynch against shoes? Find a reason he shouldn't die for being a burden on the town.