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[etgfrog]

They are the first level of constructable building, it goes tower -> fort -> castle.

[Crowe~]

So are those are for defensive purposes purely or are they needed to build the barracks/market etc?

[Arx]

Alright, there's an unfortified garrison at 96,69.

[a1s]

the guide says once CON hits 40 switch to maxxing out each classes main attribute.

(and yes, I checked- he does recommend the same for archers)
That is wrong. Your archers need to take one heavy hit, 2 max. And unless you get a few unlucky rolls they will. You should only level AGI on an archer (which gives you defense- a naked AGI 90 character will have better defense than a str 90 one decked out in ridiculously upgraded plate) doing a con-agi build will just make him an unnecessary heal sink.
Even with the rest of your party, I would advocate for a 20 con build over a 40 con one- 99% of the time, you won't need that much HP, and the harder you hit, the less turns is wasted during the fight. (taking less damage also means you can run a 1-priest party, especially considering that a 70 div priest will heal better than a 40 div one)

[Reelya]

Alright, there's an unfortified garrison at 96,69.

Ok, noted that on the map. I'll work on a separate garrison and dungeon editor later on, since those can come and go unlike cities.

[Arx]

If I leave my party of level fives, sixes and one seven there overnight, will I come back to a slaughterhouse of PCs?

[Reelya]

I think your guys will manage to kill everything that comes along. At the very worst, some rare high-level monsters will attack and you'll get 2-3 deaths. That will costs money to revive, but you still gain on XP, which is something you can't buy with money.

I had one garrison where I left 1 x level 8 warrior, and levels 1-3 for the rest. They did ok for a couple of days with no losses, but eventually 5 gorgons came along and killed half the low-level guys. This included a level 1 mage and priest though, so they weren't prime defenders.

[Arx]

Okay, I guess they'll be fine then. I'll try to pick up a placeholder party member before logging off, as that'll give me another priest in the garrison.

[Reelya]

Here's a typical days combat log for my garrison, so you know what sort of things will attack. i have 6 characters in there, but it includes 3 level 15 characters that I've retired because I didn't like how I spent their skill points. I had a previous garrison, where they fought 33 battles.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

   We attacked a group of 4 Centaurs and 4 Hell Hounds and crushed them like the maggots they are!
The battle lasted 2 rounds, and 0 spells were cast.
We dealt out 92 in damage, and sustained 0 deaths.
In return, we took 0 in damage, and inflicted 4 deaths.
We gained a total of 181 xp and 360 gold from the battle
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   We attacked a group of 6 Zombies and crushed them like the maggots they are!
The battle lasted 2 rounds, and 0 spells were cast.
We dealt out 108 in damage, and sustained 0 deaths.
In return, we took 0 in damage, and inflicted 6 deaths.
We gained a total of 214 xp and 216 gold from the battle
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   We attacked a group of 3 Hobgoblins and crushed them like the maggots they are!
The battle lasted 2 rounds, and 0 spells were cast.
We dealt out 39 in damage, and sustained 0 deaths.
In return, we took 0 in damage, and inflicted 3 deaths.
We gained a total of 101 xp and 90 gold from the battle
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   We attacked a group of 3 Basilisks and 3 Werebears and crushed them like the maggots they are!
The battle lasted 6 rounds, and 0 spells were cast.
We dealt out 264 in damage, and sustained 0 deaths.
In return, we took 10 in damage, and inflicted 6 deaths.
We gained a total of 514 xp and 96 gold from the battle
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   We attacked a group of 9 Dark Elves and crushed them like the maggots they are!
The battle lasted 2 rounds, and 0 spells were cast.
We dealt out 61 in damage, and sustained 0 deaths.
In return, we took 0 in damage, and inflicted 6 deaths.
We gained a total of 204 xp and 162 gold from the battle
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   We attacked a group of 9 Dark Elves and were thwarted as the cowards retreated.
The battle lasted 3 rounds, and 0 spells were cast.
We dealt out 88 in damage, and sustained 0 deaths.
In return, we took 0 in damage, and inflicted 3 deaths.
We gained a total of 81 xp and 0 gold from the battle
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   We attacked a group of 5 Zombies and crushed them like the maggots they are!
The battle lasted 4 rounds, and 0 spells were cast.
We dealt out 100 in damage, and sustained 0 deaths.
In return, we took 0 in damage, and inflicted 5 deaths.
We gained a total of 188 xp and 120 gold from the battle

[Crowe~]

the guide says once CON hits 40 switch to maxxing out each classes main attribute.

(and yes, I checked- he does recommend the same for archers)
That is wrong.

Im thinking 40 con seems real high at the minute also.

Im keeping track of HP/CON on level up. Its early days yet for me (lv7) but im seeing it converge on 0.3 Hp gain average per con across the board, no difference in class (no mage data). The boost warriors get at character creation seems one off. The value ranges from 0.11-0.60 so far. The range of HP my archers and warriors have is fairly consistent to match this assumption. The priests are way behind - but both of them came with real low HP and CON from purchase - in fact they were stupid low, 4HP on a lv2, 10HP on a Lv3. If I remember rightly a Priest at creation starts around 7? So seems the random characters you buy are out of sync with the HP gains im seeing on standard level up.

[Girlinhat]

hm...found a 2 handed sword with fire damage 3. Its really good, shame it has 97 durability on it.

I want this weapon :O

[Aranna]

I wondered to the nearby towns, figured I should note what's there (don't have access to the editing of the map thing, though also including sold Artifacts and a Screencap of the recruits)

Spoiler: Rothaven (85,80) (click to show/hide)

There is an Average Blacksmith, working 5 days.
For Sale:
An Indestructible Short sword with Cast Weaken (level 1) twice a day (1211g).
An 82 Durability Battleaxe with Poison Damage (Level 5), Heals 5hps per day (must be equipped) and +3% to Resist Poison (2203g).
A 120 Durability Battleaxe with +1 vs Undead (213g).
A Large Wooden Shield with +4% Crit Hit Chance and heals 1Hps per day if equipped (370g).
And here are the Recruits at Rothaven

Spoiler: Pastopus (84,70) (click to show/hide)

There is an Average Blacksmith, working 5 days.
For Sale:
A 62 Durability Quarterstaff with +9% to Resist Ice (1096g).
A 50 Durability Mace with +1% Critical Hit Chance (97g)
And here are the Recruits at Pastopus

Spoiler: Kingspile (86,61) (click to show/hide)

There is an Average Blacksmith, working 8 days.
For Sale:
A 75 Durability Quarterstaff with +1 vs Dragons and +3% Critical Hit Chance (296g)
A 100 Durability Longsword with Featherweight 40% (244g).
A 74 Durability Leather Armour with Heals 7Hps per day if equipped (213g).
Also someone sold a 79 Durability Broadsword with +1 Strength (309g)
And here are the Recruits at Kingspile

Spoiler: Waspnesse (77,61) (click to show/hide)

There is an Average Blacksmith, working 8 days.
For Sale:
Scrolls for Sale
25x Blank Scrolls (22g each)
1x Farsite Scroll (220g each)
Enchanted for Sale:
A 117 Durability Battleaxe with +1% Crit Hit Chance (213g).
A Wooden Shield with +2% Resist Ice (273g).

A 70 Durability Short sword with +5 Movement Factor, +9% Resist Poison, and +2 Turns/Day if equipped (2471g).

A Large Wooden Shield with +1 Movement Factor, +3% Resist Poison, and +1% Critical Hit Chance (715g).
A 70 Durability Short Sword with +3 Divinity (806g).
A 70 Durability Short Sword with Featherweight 30% (161g).
A 71 Durability Lether Armour with +1 Divinity (287g).

A Small Steel Shield with +1 extra Turns per day if equipped (203g).
A 70 Durability Short Sword with +1 Movement Factor (241g).
A 70 Durability Short Sword with +1 Agility (276g).
A 70 Durability Short Sword with +1 vs Beasts (81g).
A 70 Durability Hand Axe with Featherweight 10%, +1% Critical Hit Chance, and +1 vs Dragon (245g).
A 111 Durability Leather Armour with Featherweight 10% (72g).

The Last Store here (Ilisulelle's Junk) has some sold enchanted items as well, noteable ones are 3 Indestructible Hand Axes (1 is base, 1 has +1vsGuards, and 1 has 10% featherweight) and a 70 durability Shortsword that has Ice Damage level 4, +2 turns a day, and +1% resist poison (1661g).
There are also afew other ones there, non really noteworthy though.
And here are the Recruits at Waspnesse

[Reelya]

I have an indestructible handaxe (7,5) with +5 poison. I'm going to upgrade it unless I find something better. Weapons with a +1 to a particular type of enemy aren't that great, you probably don't need to mention them. The good ones have a number of bonuses, or combine that with indestructible so they can be massively upgraded. I sold a lot of low-level indestructible weapons to the last shop in waspnesse 2 days ago, they included some which had bonuses to certain things, but I had too many of these.

I think cities which had "None" on the blacksmith when people explored them before might be the best chance of finding a new God-like one now.

[Crowe~]

What happens if a party is wiped out totally on garrison regarding resurrection?

Is there any reason to spend 15 turns to set up a garrison just for over night, or does leaving the group in the wild standing just do the same?

[Girlinhat]

What happens if a party is wiped out totally on garrison regarding resurrection?

Is there any reason to spend 15 turns to set up a garrison just for over night, or does leaving the group in the wild standing just do the same?

My garrison was wiped, and the nearby healer started moving them to the morgue over the course of ~2 weeks.