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Largest number of Fortresses in one world?
« on: October 12, 2011, 02:22:27 pm »

As the title says, what's the largest number of fortresses you have had in one world? And also, what's the most number of fortresses in one world ever (that we know of, of course)?

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Re: Largest number of Fortresses in one world?
« Reply #1 on: October 12, 2011, 02:23:11 pm »

Two. :D
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Re: Largest number of Fortresses in one world?
« Reply #2 on: October 12, 2011, 02:25:29 pm »

I think i'm on my forth. As for the largest amount ever, that's a good question. I'll stick around and see if someone answers it.

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Re: Largest number of Fortresses in one world?
« Reply #4 on: October 12, 2011, 02:35:54 pm »

Better yet, what is the MAXIMUM amount?  :P

I would assume it depends on world size.

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Re: Largest number of Fortresses in one world?
« Reply #5 on: October 12, 2011, 02:37:43 pm »

I don't think I've ever went past one :P
There's usually only a couple of noob friendly regions on the entire map so as soon as I lose, I tend to just gen another world.

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Four?
That's pretty damn impressive :D
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Re: Largest number of Fortresses in one world?
« Reply #6 on: October 12, 2011, 02:46:27 pm »

Twenty-seven, created as dungeons for an adventurer.
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Re: Largest number of Fortresses in one world?
« Reply #7 on: October 12, 2011, 02:51:52 pm »

I don't think I've ever went past one :P
There's usually only a couple of noob friendly regions on the entire map so as soon as I lose, I tend to just gen another world.

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Four?
That's pretty damn impressive :D

I enjoy the idea of building history in the world, so i genned one large as possible, and put it through around 500 years. I'll probably stick with it for a while.

Though admittedly, one of them was more of an experimental embark that i would hardly consider a fort. I wanted to find out just what an aquifer was, thinking "it can't be that bad, it'll even be an easy water source!"

I was wrong. Very wrong.

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Re: Largest number of Fortresses in one world?
« Reply #8 on: October 12, 2011, 03:07:57 pm »

lets see, a world size can be 257x257, each world tile is 16x16 region tiles, each of which is 16x16 embark tiles. minimum vanilla size is 2x2  believe, so you could fit 64 in one region tile so 64x64x64x257 = 67371008 forts in a max world, generated with no oceans of lakes and no massive mountain ranges that block embark or any other embark blocking feature.

challenge- generate a world where you can make that many forts and fill the entire world with forts.

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Re: Largest number of Fortresses in one world?
« Reply #9 on: October 12, 2011, 03:15:34 pm »

I've been looking for Armok's many toothpicks, so I've literally been covering world tiles in 4x4 embarks. I think the world I have right now is up to 20 abandoned forts and a couple of ruined ones.
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Re: Largest number of Fortresses in one world?
« Reply #10 on: October 12, 2011, 03:26:41 pm »

I'm not sure you got your math right there.  A pocket world is 17x17, and each of those world tiles contains 16x16 embark tiles.  A massive world should be 257x257 and then 16x16, you added another 16x16 in there that didn't belong.

Fun fact: An embark tile is 48x48.  A world tile is 16x16 embark tiles.  A maximum size world is 257x257 world tiles.  That's 2,304 unit tiles per embark tiles.  589,824 unit tiles per world tiles.  38,957,285,376 unit tiles in a maximum size world.  The longest straight path would be 197,376 tiles long.  At average speed of 9.5 ticks per tiles, for your average dwarf, it would take 1,875,072 ticks to cross the distance.  In fortress mode, a day is 1,200 ticks, so it would take 4.3-ish years of non-stop walking to cross the world.  I can't find the exact length of a day in adventure mode right now, but I know that it's over 10x longer than a fort mode day.

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Re: Largest number of Fortresses in one world?
« Reply #11 on: October 12, 2011, 03:29:00 pm »

lets see, a world size can be 257x257, each world tile is 16x16 region tiles, each of which is 16x16 embark tiles. minimum vanilla size is 2x2  believe, so you could fit 64 in one region tile so 64x64x64x257 = 67371008 forts in a max world, generated with no oceans of lakes and no massive mountain ranges that block embark or any other embark blocking feature.

I think you have some problems with your math there.
To convert to total number of embark tiles
(257*257)*(16*16)=16,908,544 embark squares
Total number of fortresses
(Total embark)/(2x2)=4,227,136 maximum total fortresses possible

Even assuming that your computer can load up and you can select, start, and abandon a fortress in 30 seconds, that gives for the time to make the maximum number of fortresses
4,227,136*(30/60)=2,113,568 minutes
(minutes)/60=35,226.1333 hours
(hours)/24=1,467.755555 days
(days)/365.242199 [exact days in a year] = ~4.0185 years
And that is assuming you can do it all in 30 seconds. If we figure that the average fortress will take at least 5 min from main menu to main menu (1 for the embark/abandon, 4 for finding the exact location to place the fort which will increase as time goes by) then our average time goes up by a factor of 10, giving us a time of about 40.185 years, and that is without sleep, food, or any other stops.

Edit:darn beaten to it :P
Edit2:I took his errors, fixed my math now
« Last Edit: October 12, 2011, 03:43:26 pm by i2amroy »
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Re: Largest number of Fortresses in one world?
« Reply #12 on: October 12, 2011, 03:33:30 pm »

lets see, a world size can be 257x257, each world tile is 16x16 region tiles, each of which is 16x16 embark tiles. minimum vanilla size is 2x2  believe, so you could fit 64 in one region tile so 64x64x64x257 = 67371008 forts in a max world, generated with no oceans of lakes and no massive mountain ranges that block embark or any other embark blocking feature.

I think you have some problems with your math there.
To convert to total number of embark tiles
(257*257)*(16*16)*(16*16)=4,328,587,264 embark squares
Total number of fortresses
(Total embark)/(2x2)
(4328587264)/(4)=1,082,146,816 maximum total fortresses possible

Even assuming that your computer can load up and you can select/start a fortress in 30 seconds, that gives for the time to make the maximum number of fortresses
1,082,146,816*(30/60)=541,073,408 minutes
(minutes)/60=9,017,890.13333 hours
(hours)/24=375,745.422222 days
(days)/365.242199 [exact days in a year] = 1,028.7568 years, which is well over the current lifespan of a human

Edit:darn beaten too it :P
Edit2:darn I took his errors, fixing my math now
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Re: Largest number of Fortresses in one world?
« Reply #13 on: October 12, 2011, 03:38:08 pm »

Now try it with Nanofort 1x1's

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Re: Largest number of Fortresses in one world?
« Reply #14 on: October 12, 2011, 03:39:43 pm »

You might want to check my new math. It's now possible to do, but with time for basic necessities added in you would probably be close to pushing the current human lifespan.

Also nanofort 1x1 gives us an increase by a factor of 4, so we get 16 years and 160 years respectively.
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