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Edmus

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Does the thread used to suture disappear after the project?
« on: October 04, 2011, 08:02:27 pm »

I say this because the medical staff used adamantine to suture a wound.
Is it now gone?
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Re: Does the thread used to suture disappear after the project?
« Reply #1 on: October 04, 2011, 08:15:53 pm »

It usually remains inside the patient. Check his/her inventory [(q)->(i)] and it should be there.
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Re: Does the thread used to suture disappear after the project?
« Reply #2 on: October 04, 2011, 08:29:34 pm »

I'll do that once the goblin blood gets washed off, or the game will crash, thanks.
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Re: Does the thread used to suture disappear after the project?
« Reply #3 on: October 04, 2011, 08:36:51 pm »

It usually remains inside the patient. Check his/her inventory [(q)->(i)] and it should be there.
Yep you're right, it's sewn into his foot, will it later be taken out, or will he just have a super expensive adamantine foot?
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Re: Does the thread used to suture disappear after the project?
« Reply #4 on: October 04, 2011, 08:45:44 pm »

I'm pretty sure the sutures will just be left in forever, though you might be able to get them back once the dwarf dies.
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Re: Does the thread used to suture disappear after the project?
« Reply #5 on: October 04, 2011, 10:46:33 pm »

Okay, thanks.
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Re: Does the thread used to suture disappear after the project?
« Reply #6 on: October 05, 2011, 09:01:27 am »

If the dwarf dies, it'll be laying around on the spot where he died.

Arrange for his demise!
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Re: Does the thread used to suture disappear after the project?
« Reply #7 on: October 05, 2011, 09:34:38 am »

And if you pour magma on the dwarf, his body and clothing will burn completely away, leaving only the precious adamantine thread behind.

I don't know if it's usable, however.  Unless I'm mistaken the suturing job doesn't use up an entire unit of thread.  Newly created threads, from strand extraction or the loom, have an item size of something like 15000.  When thread is used in the hospital to suture a dwarf, it only uses up some fragment of a full piece of thread.  This means that a single unit of thread in the hospital should be usable for multiple suturing jobs.  It also means that a piece of used suture from a dead dwarf is too small to be used for jobs that normally require thread.  At most, it could be used for another suture.
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Re: Does the thread used to suture disappear after the project?
« Reply #8 on: October 05, 2011, 09:35:48 am »

And if you pour magma on the dwarf, his body and clothing will burn completely away, leaving only the precious adamantine thread behind.

I don't know if it's usable, however.  Unless I'm mistaken the suturing job doesn't use up an entire unit of thread.  Newly created threads, from strand extraction or the loom, have an item size of something like 15000.  When thread is used in the hospital to suture a dwarf, it only uses up some fragment of a full piece of thread.  This means that a single unit of thread in the hospital should be usable for multiple suturing jobs.  It also means that a piece of used suture from a dead dwarf is too small to be used for jobs that normally require thread.  At most, it could be used for another suture.

Wouldn't melting it down help? If you remember the smelter you melted it down in and only melt adamantine items in that one, it'll be remade into a bar eventually.
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Re: Does the thread used to suture disappear after the project?
« Reply #9 on: October 05, 2011, 03:26:08 pm »

Hmmm, I wonder if this might be another way to increase adamantine supplies? If it does only use a pratial unit of thread when he is stitched and does leave a full unit of thread when he dies, you could arrange for lots of fish dissectors to be injured, stitched up with adamantine, then wait patiently for them to die (sometimes that magma flows so slowly!), and collect more adamantine than was used.

Similar to the adamantine bolt exploit.
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Re: Does the thread used to suture disappear after the project?
« Reply #10 on: October 05, 2011, 05:03:29 pm »

I would kill him except due to poor management he is a well trained hammerdwarf with two pages of friends, so I'll wait until natural (Gobbos ect.) causes kill him, rather than risk a tantrum spiral.
However, for !SCIENCE! I'll back up the save and see if he drops a full unit of thread.
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Re: Does the thread used to suture disappear after the project?
« Reply #11 on: October 05, 2011, 05:12:17 pm »

I would kill him except due to poor management he is a well trained hammerdwarf with two pages of friends, so I'll wait until natural (Gobbos ect.) causes kill him, rather than risk a tantrum spiral.
However, for !SCIENCE! I'll back up the save and see if he drops a full unit of thread.
No matter what way he dies, his friends will get a bad thought over his death. Build a legendary dining hall with waterfalls and such to compensate... or don't, more Fun that.
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Re: Does the thread used to suture disappear after the project?
« Reply #12 on: October 07, 2011, 10:56:50 am »

Or: Build that dining hall AND bury the guy with the candy sutures AND all his friends in Magma! Let other dwarves watch as audience! Call it Macbeth - The True Story!
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