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Sharp Blades Tag?
« on: October 03, 2011, 06:13:38 pm »
On the stones screen (z --> stone), why do nickel, zinc, pig iron, lead, and bismuth have the sharp blades tag?
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Re: Sharp Blades Tag?
« Reply #1 on: October 03, 2011, 06:27:24 pm »
Better chance of lopping off limbs and/or more effective vs unarmored creatures I think.

They share the tag with obsidian but the making swords from stones process only takes obsidian.
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Re: Sharp Blades Tag?
« Reply #2 on: October 03, 2011, 06:36:30 pm »
Oh, so it means that if it was made into a weapon, it will be strong against unarmored creatures?

I figured that only obsidian could be made into blades. I knew that one already.
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Re: Sharp Blades Tag?
« Reply #3 on: October 03, 2011, 06:37:19 pm »
Quote from: Acperience on October 03, 2011, 06:27:24 pm
Better chance of lopping off limbs and/or more effective vs unarmored creatures I think.
NO IT DOES NOT. It only has that because it has the [MAX_EDGE:10000] tag in the RAW files. It says that these metals can have a sharp edge, but they can't really be made into weapons/ammo.
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Re: Sharp Blades Tag?
« Reply #4 on: October 03, 2011, 07:29:42 pm »
Quote from: UristMcHuman on October 03, 2011, 06:37:19 pm
Quote from: Acperience on October 03, 2011, 06:27:24 pm
Better chance of lopping off limbs and/or more effective vs unarmored creatures I think.
NO IT DOES NOT. It only has that because it has the [MAX_EDGE:10000] tag in the RAW files. It says that these metals can have a sharp edge, but they can't really be made into weapons/ammo.
Explain?
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Re: Sharp Blades Tag?
« Reply #5 on: October 03, 2011, 07:49:53 pm »
Quote from: They Got Leader on October 03, 2011, 07:29:42 pm
Quote from: UristMcHuman on October 03, 2011, 06:37:19 pm
Quote from: Acperience on October 03, 2011, 06:27:24 pm
Better chance of lopping off limbs and/or more effective vs unarmored creatures I think.
NO IT DOES NOT. It only has that because it has the [MAX_EDGE:10000] tag in the RAW files. It says that these metals can have a sharp edge, but they can't really be made into weapons/ammo.
Explain?

These are all weapons that can obtain a pointy edge, if filed into one, but are not of sufficient durability to be forged into a blade. Think stone weaponry and the like. You can have a sharp flint rock but you can't have a longsword forged from flint.
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Re: Sharp Blades Tag?
« Reply #6 on: October 03, 2011, 08:04:18 pm »
Probably is used by artifact weapons that don't have weapon structural info.
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Re: Sharp Blades Tag?
« Reply #7 on: October 04, 2011, 01:09:41 am »
So basically means that it can be made into a weapon by moods, buuuuut is not effective as a forged blade.
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Re: Sharp Blades Tag?
« Reply #8 on: October 04, 2011, 01:14:21 am »
That's pretty much it.  It prevents mooded weapons from being terribly bad, and instead makes them mostly bad.
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« Reply #9 on: October 04, 2011, 10:41:17 am »
Quote from: Girlinhat on October 04, 2011, 01:14:21 am
That's pretty much it.  It prevents mooded weapons from being terribly bad, and instead makes them mostly bad.

Ya. Artifact weapons are incredibly accurate, but are still only as effective at dealing damage as their main element is.

So a Pig Iron sword would still by abysmal. Although a Pig Iron hammer might not be awful...
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Re: Sharp Blades Tag?
« Reply #10 on: October 04, 2011, 01:50:21 pm »
Awesome, thank you for the help.
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