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[greycat]

If the tutorial is doing weird things like assigning dwarves to bedrooms, then perhaps the tutorial should be updated, or at least, advice like "Hey, you don't have to ____" should go in the tutorial's thread, where it might be seen by people who are downloading it.

[Endiqua]

There was a version where the dwarfs wouldn't claim bedrooms no matter what; my guess is that was the version in use for that tutorial. 

[Stefrist]

I still always designate specific rooms for dwarves one at a time without a good reason. (except being able to predict the dworfs movement around the fortress).

Dworfs will claim a room, but I think they do so faster if they've got a higher rank (ie. being noble or what not)
I remember reading older posts about the older Dwarf Fortress, where dwarves would actually claim a room depending on their own wealth.
Maybe older players remember this behaviour and seldomly mention it nowadays.

I do think it might be better to let dwarfs claim themselves in order to avoid the noble's unhappy tought, when a regular dworf got a nice room.

[Endiqua]

I remember reading older posts about the older Dwarf Fortress, where dwarves would actually claim a room depending on their own wealth.
Maybe older players remember this behaviour and seldomly mention it nowadays.

I think you're talking about the version(s) that had an economy option.  Bedrooms could be rented and nicer rooms cost more, but you could also turn off the rent (or the economy altogether).  I kind of liked playing with the economy on every so often, but I always kept my coins locked up in a vault. 

[dr_random]

I'm not that an experienced player, but the stuff that dwarves will claim their bedrooms when they find one is not so easy to understand.
Was it in a guide? Don't know, but I had trouble figurin out that the room was the important thing, not the bed.
Once I made bedrooms and being lazy I noticed they were actively used and didn't care for designating them to dwarves because that seemed to me as an awful chore to do.

Same goes for the in-game job designations - it's astounding how quick I got hold of and understood Dwarf Therapist.

I also love to put cabinets in the bedrooms - it adds to the overall chaos inside. I even tried to make a locker room once.

Idea: Next is dormitories 4all with lockers and fancy weapon stands. No individual bedrooms and eateries - only offices. No fancy barons, it's the people's democratic cave! Fewer specialisation! Less segregation. Fancy dining tables!

[Poindexterity]

Can I just designate a bedroom and let a dwarf claim it instead of assigning beds to 50+  dwarves.

yes you can, good sir.

i STILL have a handprint on my forehead from the day i learned that.

[Psychobones]

I remember reading older posts about the older Dwarf Fortress, where dwarves would actually claim a room depending on their own wealth.
Maybe older players remember this behaviour and seldomly mention it nowadays.

I think you're talking about the version(s) that had an economy option.  Bedrooms could be rented and nicer rooms cost more, but you could also turn off the rent (or the economy altogether).  I kind of liked playing with the economy on every so often, but I always kept my coins locked up in a vault.

He's talking about anything before .9(maybe .11?) where dwarves would never sleep in their own room. This caused your first 10 or so bedrooms to be the only ones claimed, but they were never used by their owners.

[MalleusManus]

The wiki really should make this more clear. The line quoted above feels like some advanced concept that one would explore later, not a fundamental ease-of-play issue.

I am very pleased I don't have to pause the game for an hour to designate all my new migrants into a bedroom!

[greycat]

I have added even more redundant text to the bedroom page.  If people are still confused upon reading this, then I'm stumped, and cannot figure out how to make it any more clear.

[Endiqua]

I remember reading older posts about the older Dwarf Fortress, where dwarves would actually claim a room depending on their own wealth.
Maybe older players remember this behaviour and seldomly mention it nowadays.

I think you're talking about the version(s) that had an economy option.  Bedrooms could be rented and nicer rooms cost more, but you could also turn off the rent (or the economy altogether).  I kind of liked playing with the economy on every so often, but I always kept my coins locked up in a vault.

He's talking about anything before .9(maybe .11?) where dwarves would never sleep in their own room. This caused your first 10 or so bedrooms to be the only ones claimed, but they were never used by their owners.

Yeah, I remember that version and had mentioned it earlier in the thread (although I didn't remember rooms being claimed at all), but the followup comment about it depending on wealth didn't seem to fit that version.

[Quietust]

There was a version where the dwarfs wouldn't claim bedrooms no matter what; my guess is that was the version in use for that tutorial.

If there was such a version, it was a very long time ago - even the final 2D version (0.23.130.23a) had dwarves automatically claiming bedrooms.

[Endiqua]

There was a version where the dwarfs wouldn't claim bedrooms no matter what; my guess is that was the version in use for that tutorial.

If there was such a version, it was a very long time ago - even the final 2D version (0.23.130.23a) had dwarves automatically claiming bedrooms.

I remember getting irked because I had designated all the bedrooms and put cabinets in them, and no one would claim a room to put their stuff away.  Maybe it was that they were claiming a lot slower, but at any rate, I got used to manually assigning beds at that point.

It shows up in the bug tracker as appearing in 31.04, resolved in 31.13.

[SannaSK]

Things I think I have done newb-wrong and feel like stating just to have a confirmation:

I have been Q, move to bed, r for room, size as needed, then hitting (f) for free bed, assuming that meant "this bed is free for any dwarf to claim as their own" SLASH "any dwarf can sleep in this bed at any time" (somewhat like a hotel).

I have been noticing that many dwarves are all "did not sleep in a proper room recently," despite that when I look at my bedrooms, there are often no dwarves in them at all. I also finally bothered to think about "I have 73 dwarves and only 26 rooms, that might not be enough (goes to the wiki) uhhh have i been not-actually-designating all these rooms as bedrooms this whole time??"

Second question: when I size the room, should the blue flashies encompass the wall squares, or just encompass the floor squares? Reason being, I only have one wall square between two rooms, so does this mean that 'technically' I would be making the rooms overlap, and if so, is that bad?

[i2amroy]

Answer!

I find it's a better idea to set your bedrooms to include the walls as well as the floor. Yes the rooms are then technically overlapping, but the only drawback is that the value of the overlapped areas (so just the walls/engravings that are shared with other rooms) is split between the two or more rooms. This still equates to an overall value increase for your rooms however.

[SannaSK]

1: so if i have 73 dwarves, i really do want 73 bedrooms?

2: And I set them only using Q once, mouse to a bedroom, (r) for room, resize if necessary (but as long as the blue flashies encompass the wall, including the wall with the door, it's fine), Enter to set, move mouse to next bed, repeat?

Wowwww I have been doing it way wrong. At least I know now before I built more and didn't set them properly, haha.

3: Is it... bad to put bedrooms on the same zlvl as the tombs? Like, it won't make them unhappy to sleep near their dead?