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« Reply #45 on: October 10, 2011, 09:32:18 pm »

- we don't consume "air", we consume oxygen.
That's a good way to get (slightly) high, but you'll be wanting some other gasses to decrease the oxygen content in the on board atmosphere.

But then again apparantly space suits are supposed to be pure oxygen affairs. Maybe it's alright to get wasted if you're an astronaut?
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« Reply #46 on: October 10, 2011, 11:41:16 pm »

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« Reply #47 on: October 10, 2011, 11:55:58 pm »

- we don't consume "air", we consume oxygen.
That's a good way to get (slightly) high, but you'll be wanting some other gasses to decrease the oxygen content in the on board atmosphere.

But then again apparantly space suits are supposed to be pure oxygen affairs. Maybe it's alright to get wasted if you're an astronaut?
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« Reply #48 on: October 11, 2011, 01:14:11 am »

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« Reply #49 on: October 11, 2011, 01:18:24 am »

I was really looking forward to Serendipity, but this...

Please release this one. I shall name my first-born after you and become your personal barbershop quartet if you do.
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EDIT: Ok, after looking over the rest of the thread and the OP, I have a few questions:
FTL capabilities, or strictly in-system travel?
Will there be some sort of combat engine?
How many different locations are you hoping for in the first testing release?
Will there be any sort of ship customization?
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« Reply #50 on: October 11, 2011, 02:31:55 am »

- we don't consume "air", we consume oxygen.
That's a good way to get (slightly) high, but you'll be wanting some other gasses to decrease the oxygen content in the on board atmosphere.

But then again apparantly space suits are supposed to be pure oxygen affairs. Maybe it's alright to get wasted if you're an astronaut?

I said "consume", not "breathe", of course the air we breathe is mostly nitrogen, but we don't consume the nitrogen.

And indeed sometimes they use pure oxygen at low pressures :
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By reducing or omitting diluents (constituents other than oxygen, e.g., nitrogen and argon) the total pressure can be lowered to a minimum of 21 kPa, the partial pressure of oxygen in the Earth's atmosphere at sea level. This can lighten spacecraft structures, reduce leaks and simplify the life support system.
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« Reply #51 on: October 11, 2011, 10:04:48 am »

Posting to watch.
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« Reply #52 on: October 11, 2011, 02:25:50 pm »

Don't most Scifi Shows say that they recycle the air???

So? Most SciFi shows have Aliens and weapons that disintegrate people, too. Then again, some choose not to.

Don't most Scifi Shows say that they recycle the air???
In 5 thousand years, I THINK we'll figure out how to recycle air.

Or how to continue decomposing. Whichever works best.

Via Stella is set in 2500, I think :P

Well there is two ways to recycle air.


A: Biodecks feeding the plants the CO2 discarded from humans (But how much would you need? per plant)
B: Using sexy awesome techongly to turn CO2 into Oxygen

Biodecks would require a bit more power than a light aircraft can spare, and I thought I may as well keep it in handy for the Capitals-only, so that it can take up an entire deck.

Technology is possible. They've already made an engine that runs on Oxygen, or something. So after 500 years, you'd expect it availabie in reverse. But still, adding a "Limited Oxygen Supply" adds another worry for you to handle, and another possible disaster event <3.

About this "air" thing, where does the "11000" come from ?

Other than that i have a few comments :
- we don't consume "air", we consume oxygen.
- your crew will die from CO2 poisoning before running out of oxygen.
- if you have CO2 scrubbers, they will lose performance over time due to O2 rarefaction and will die before the O2 levels reach 0.
- if you use O2 tanks, you can store oxygen at up to 700 bar with our current technology (i think).
- a human being consumes about 500 liters of O2 per day (about 700g).
- 1 cubic meter of O2 @ 700 bar = 700 000  liters @ 1 bar = enough O2 for one human for 1400 days (weights almost a metric ton though).

Edit : i wrote this assuming that you're not using O2 tanks and are only relying on the same ambient air for the whole trip.

11,000 is the average that humans (non-excitedly) draw in, so I've used it as a base.

- We breathe in Air, and we consume the oxygen. Our lips don't magically filter the air as it arrives at the gap of Rohan gape of our mouths - that's what our lungs are for!
- Touché, making CO2 Scrubbing Equipment another addition to the Ship Management duties.
- Ergo giving maintenance at least one more job for them to worry themselves about.
- With our current technology, yes. Via Stella being Science-fiction means that this argument point is mute.
- I quoted it at 11,000-something. Admittedly, from my first source, and not cross-checked. But I'm going to cheap out with the "Science-fiction" escape card on this one.
- Ok.

FTL capabilities, or strictly in-system travel?
Will there be some sort of combat engine?
How many different locations are you hoping for in the first testing release?
Will there be any sort of ship customization?

* I don't know what FTL is, precisely, but seeing as it's linked with "Strinctly in-system Travel", I'm going to say we're looking at possible Alpha Centauri colonisation.
* Yes.
* We want to release the game as a playable whole, as opposed to mini-releases.
* Yes. The limits of this have yet to be discussed.
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« Reply #53 on: October 11, 2011, 02:28:04 pm »

FTL = Faster-than-light.

Basically, I wanted to know if players will be able to travel to other systems, or if this game is so hardcore that even traveling to Jupiter can take several months.
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« Reply #54 on: October 11, 2011, 04:00:24 pm »

FTL = Faster-than-light.

Basically, I wanted to know if players will be able to travel to other systems, or if this game is so hardcore that even traveling to Jupiter can take several months.

I wouldn't say Months... Maybe weeks.

The fun in space travel is travelling. Take out the travelling, and all you have is space. Which can be pretty boring if the journey is over after a few minutes!
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« Reply #55 on: October 11, 2011, 04:38:42 pm »

FTL = Faster-than-light.

Basically, I wanted to know if players will be able to travel to other systems, or if this game is so hardcore that even traveling to Jupiter can take several months.

I wouldn't say Months... Maybe weeks.

The fun in space travel is travelling. Take out the travelling, and all you have is space. Which can be pretty boring if the journey is over after a few minutes!
Ah, but you need to include things for players to do and manage during travel. Otherwise you might as well play Oregon Trail, or something  ;)
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« Reply #56 on: October 12, 2011, 03:25:36 am »

The fun in space travel is travelling. Take out the travelling, and all you have is space. Which can be pretty boring if the journey is over after a few minutes!

White-space movement is not fun in any situation. But as long as you have stuff going on during the travelling I agree with your point.
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« Reply #57 on: October 12, 2011, 03:37:56 am »

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« Reply #58 on: October 12, 2011, 03:41:13 am »

I'm also posting to watch.

But! And that's a bit 'BUTTTT', even at moving at 0.2 light speed, it can take days to traverse a solar body (i.e. a solar system) from point to point.  At the speed of light, it still takes a little over 8 minutes from sunlight to reach the earth.
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« Reply #59 on: October 12, 2011, 05:42:01 am »

The speed of light is 300,000 km/sec.

LSAPM = Light Speed Acelleration Per Minute

Earth to Mars (Mean) 225,000,000.

Light Speed, Earth to Mars = 12.5 Minutes

[Slow] Earth to Mars, 30 days = 10416.66 LSAPM (173.6 km/sec) (624960 km/h)
[Fast] Earth to Mars, 15 days = 20833.32 km/min (347.2 km/sec) (1249920 km/h)


225000000 / (15*24)*60 = km/hour
225,000,000 / 21600 = 10416.66

225000000 / (30*24)*60 = km/hour
225,000,000 / 43200 = 5208.33

Earth to Pluto
5,830,000,000 / 20833.32 = 279840.17 mins
279840.17 / 60 = 4664 Hours
4664 Hours / 24 = 194.33 Days
194.33 / 30 = 6.47 Months
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