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[Bohandas]

You don't understand.
Religion has been mentioned by the way, but indeed the point of purity from a religious perspective has not been defended within this thread (though it is often raised IRL) still the point of a "blank canvas" being preferable is on page 1.
I claim that the appeal of that idea come from the fact that a virgin is seen as more pure (or from fear of he competition, but that's another can of worms).

Phmcw is right. Here is the offending quote:

I wanted to discuss the logic involved

The article appears to be promoting a particular worldview, however...if one were a piece of canvas at an art school, and one allowed any art student to paint on you for year and year, it's extremely unlikely that anyone wishing to paint a portrait would choose you over a blank canvass.

Incidentally, it sounds like the canvas in that metaphor has served that art school well, and if it served this purpose for years and years, it could serve it for years and years more.

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Additionally, BTW, a fourth fallacious assumption common on this thread is that everybody wants intimacy.

[Descan]

I said it in the progressive rage thread, but I'll post it here too since it's relevant. Feel free to pick it apart :3

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I have this weird, regimented and categorized philosophy considering relationships, friendships, sex, and all that.

I won't get into it, because it's all disjointed and suchlike; sufficed to say, I'd rather have sex with my friends than just one person who I happen to be romantically involved with.

That isn't to say I don't want a relationship of the traditional sort (as traditional as it would get, at least in my case, what with poly* relationships that I also prefer), nor does it mean I only want friendships with people for sex. But I just see it as another way to get close to someone, not necessarily romantically.

Besides, if I only have sex with one person, I start losing interest. :/

I don't believe in relationships built around casual sex.

To me, sex is like salsa dip. You don't eat it directly, you eat it with chips. And while you can eat the chips on their own, it's not as satisfying as it is with salsa.

[Tack]

So sex and marriage is like Salsa and Cars?

[Mindmaker]

I just wanted to mentin that science is not better than religion, since a) those are not comparable and b) opinions man.
You probably meant scientific reasoning vs religoius reasoning.

[Phmcw]

I just wanted to mentin that science is not better than religion, since a) those are not comparable and b) opinions man.
You probably meant scientific reasoning vs religoius reasoning.

Actually they are : they are both way to envision the world. And "opinion man" is a terrible argument that I never accept.

[Mindmaker]

That's pretty ethnocentric (if that expression can be bend this way, didn't really want to say 'arrogant') believing that you hold the ultimate truth.

[Phmcw]

That's pretty ethnocentric (if that expression can be bend this way, didn't really want to say 'arrogant') believing that you hold the ultimate truth.

I am right until proved wrong. Then I'll be righter.

I know I don't hold the ultimate truth. But it's definitely the best I know, so good enough I'll try to find a better one. And "ultimate truth" is a fairly religious concept that doesn't concern me. Actually I don't think it is relevant, pretty much as the philosophical stone is irrelevant (and I'm talking about the "perfect mater").

[Vector]

There is no scientific knowledge without a priori, assumed, unprovable knowledge.

[Mindmaker]

Actually I believe it's a scientific term and quite recent cosidering the talk of the "world formula" a while ago.

[Phmcw]

There is no scientific knowledge without a priori, assumed, unprovable knowledge.

First, there is no driving without risk still it's better to drive safely than speeding drunk.

Second while it's philosophically correct, experimental evidence remain. That unprovable knowledge is actually, by definition, hypothesis and should always be challenged, as Einstein shown. 

[Vector]

Perhaps we should concede disagreement.  I've found that a life without tending to the inner self--and not with psychology or psychiatry, mind you--is a very empty one.

[Leafsnail]

I'm not sure why engaging in scientific reasoning and tending to your inner self should be at all mutually exclusive.

...Or even why you'd somehow need to temporarily abandon scientific reasoning in order to tend to yourself.

[MaximumZero]

I'm not sure why engaging in scientific reasoning and tending to your inner self should be at all mutually exclusive.

...Or even why you'd somehow need to temporarily abandon scientific reasoning in order to tend to yourself.

I feel the same way. Not all of humanity's perceived needs are physical. Mind you, I'm not a religious person, but I still take time to sort out my mind every now and again.

[kaijyuu]

Perhaps Vector's saying she uses something other than empiricism for her "tending to herself." Science only works on empirical principles, and empirical principles are of course, based on assumptions.

That's not so much "abandoning" as using a different tool for a different job.

[Vester]

There is no scientific knowledge without a priori, assumed, unprovable knowledge.

First, there is no driving without risk still it's better to drive safely than speeding drunk.

Did you just compare people of faith to speeding drunks?