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[KaelGotDwarves]

Depends where you go to school.

Sex ed was fine where I grew up, although they did not go into specifics of what you're supposed to do, at least we learned not to force it. Some don't learn, or watch porn. *cringes*

Where I went to university, there's basically no sex ed. There was a joke that Utah was the meth capital of the world per capita because of disillusioned housewives with ten kids and the sex was so terrible.

[Max White]

There is sex ed in uni?
Or rather, there is assessed sex ed in uni?

[KaelGotDwarves]

No, I went to university in utah- where sex ed is pretty much abstinence-forced, or basically non-existent. Thank Buddha I didn't grow up there.

[Max White]

But it happens somewhere?
They don't have that in Australia, we mostly just know how things go by then. Good sex education in highschool and more liberal culture sees to that.

[Africa]

Whatever works for you. I'm sure everybody can think of dozens of examples that would prove any possible point you'd care to make on any side of this issue.

I'm wondering about the scientific methodology of whereever that statistic at the beginning came from. It could well just be saying "women who had earlier sexual experiences weren't as happy and satisfied with their marriages now" but not that women who didn't are satisfied. Not to mention God knows how they polled people or analyzed their statistics. They've probably also confused correlation and causation, as I'd not be surprised if teenage girls with low self-esteem were therefore more likely to start having sex, rather than the other way around.

[Max White]

I'm wondering about the scientific methodology of whereever that statistic at the beginning came from.

So I still get Christian-type news emails from when I really believed that kind of stuff.

So God.

[woose1]

So God.

My opinion is that-OH GOD THE FLAMES THEY HURT

[MetalSlimeHunt]

Oh Focus on the Family, you so insane corrupting influence on modern society.

[Footkerchief]

Common sense question: who would have an easier time staying committed to a single relationship: the person who's only ever had one relationship, or the person's who's had several?

I'm not advising people which sort of lifestyle they should choose for themselves. But if anyone wants to have a stable, single "marriage" kind of relationship someday, then it makes sense to live that way rather than have lots of relationships and casually sleep around for years then suddenly expect to give it all up and commit to one person. And that applies to others too: if someone else has had 10 emotionally charged and/or sexually active relationships before you, it's going to be more difficult for them to stick with just one "from now on" than the person who's never had all those previous relationships.

Your claim that this is "common sense" casts your own into question.  Everyone != you.  Some people cling to the first person who looks their way, others feel stifled by only having had one relationship.

[Vester]

The only comment I'm making is that I found it otterly hilarious :3 that Alice Fryling had to specify "genital sex".

That's cute, and makes me wonder what other kind of sex they're into.

Well, genital sex is when the man puts his man-thingy into the woman's woman-thingy. If the man-thingy goes anywhere else (or if something else goes into the woman-thingy), it's probably not genital sex.

Sorry, I just spent the night reading really bad fan fiction and it's fun to use weird euphemisms for genitals.

[KaelGotDwarves]

Well you see officer, I was about to ploink my peter in her cooter while smushing her hoohahs. I had just poked her keister- that's when my turtle reared it's head and Mr. Willie said wazoo, so I took the bald-headed butler to the Grand Canyon to do the latching lucy. I didn't mean to get my gigglestick all womb-ferrety in the cabbage patch, sir.

PS: I'd hit her with my hammer if you know what I mean.

Spoiler: Dr. Horrible's Sing-Along Blog (click to show/hide)

The hammer is my penis.

[Mindmaker]

While I do agree with many points of the article, I have to say the ones based on references to the scripture sound like rubbish.
So are some of the apples and oranges comparisons. Comparing sex in a loving relationship to porn? Seriously?
The same goes for setting the line at marriage.

[i2amroy]

So God.

My opinion is that-OH GOD THE FLAMES THEY HURT

No, that's Armok. He was referring to the other one.

Anyways, I guess that I would have to agree with the article's purpose of limiting premarital sex, but I have definitely got some major problems with how they did their research and even what research they did. This is definitely one of the more "I'm gonna state my belief and then state more of my beliefs pretending they are sources to back up my first belief" instead of "I'm going to state my belief and then give actual data to support it. Also in this changing world of the definitions of "marriage" I'm coming to find more and more problems with the simple definition of pre-marital. Are they talking legal marriage or religious marriage? What about groups of three people who though they can't be married still act like one family group? (I've met a few of them if you really want to know) Also what about ideas in other religions than christianity? Where does the whole muslim extremist 40 virgins thing fit into this? And what about the feelings of said virgins?

All-in-all while I think that it is a good idea to stop our race from degenerating into debauchery and chaos, I think that a large portion of what we think as "ethical" is a lot more based on what we and our society think at a given time, and doesn't necessarily have any correlation to what are the general ideals or what would actually be the most productive to humanity as a species.

[Siquo]

Sleep with as many as you can, and eventually you'll get one pregnant. That's the one you stick with





Okay, maybe I shouldn't give advice like this while drinking.

[scriver]

But it happens somewhere?
They don't have that in Australia, we mostly just know how things go by then. Good sex education in highschool and more liberal culture sees to that.

I think you're still misunderstanding. I believe Kael meant that he went to university in Utah, where they don't have sex ed (or rather, bad such) in high school, or the school before I can't remember the name of. Nothing about sex ed at university, just that there was where he interacted with Utah.

Where does the whole muslim extremist 40 virgins thing fit into this? And what about the feelings of said virgins?

I'm 99% sure that whole 40 virgin thing is a myth, and that it doesn't actually say that. I remember hearing someone talk about that at one of those TED (I think?) talks.