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Re: Girlinhat: Proficient Metal Crafter
« Reply #150 on: October 20, 2011, 07:23:20 pm »

If anything I'd be using these for dog collars and leashes, which requires quite a bit of strength since many people have big strong dogs that could snap aluminum rings by accident.  I may look into welding steel then...

Also, my order was finally packaged and should be in the air.  Let's wait enough week for delivery, yay~

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Re: Girlinhat: Proficient Metal Crafter
« Reply #151 on: October 20, 2011, 07:58:08 pm »

Be carful what you weld though. Some alloys react to heat and release toxic vapors, galvy being one of them, and anything with zinc too. It may not matter if you do it in a well ventilated area but I wouldn't want to do it in my basement, or garage. Welding is a nice way to fasten ring but please, be safe about it.
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Re: Girlinhat: Proficient Metal Crafter
« Reply #152 on: October 20, 2011, 09:02:46 pm »

I think as a rule of thumb I'd be doing it outside on the patio with a fan behind me, but would still try to avoid hazardous materials.  My main thing would mostly be stainless though.  Because what's the point of welding aluminum?  It's still going to be weak aluminum!  Some of the nickel and (I think) zinc in stainless might be hazardous, but I'm usually very careful about these things.

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Re: Girlinhat: Proficient Metal Crafter
« Reply #153 on: October 20, 2011, 10:54:20 pm »

Regular brass or bronze plus borax flux makes an excellent brazing material.
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Re: Girlinhat: Proficient Metal Crafter
« Reply #154 on: October 20, 2011, 11:14:46 pm »

Bronze, as I've been using it, is a very tough material.  I think a lot of people go "eh, it's not as good as steel" without realizing that it's still extremely tough!  Welding bronze should be safe and provide some strong rings, and soldering bronze with bronze wouldn't be as good but still pretty strong.

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Re: Girlinhat: Proficient Metal Crafter
« Reply #155 on: October 21, 2011, 01:51:31 pm »

Definitely.  Bronze is excellent stuff - there's a good reason it was used for so much of human history.
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Re: Girlinhat: Proficient Metal Crafter
« Reply #156 on: October 21, 2011, 02:17:54 pm »

Bronze sword were actually better than the earlier iron swords but since iroon was easier to make the used it more often. I think I may get some rings and make some jewlery.
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Re: Girlinhat: Proficient Metal Crafter
« Reply #157 on: October 21, 2011, 02:59:20 pm »

I was under the impression that bronze was roughtly equal to iron swords. just irons easyer to produce. since when a bronze and iron sword cross blades, they both end up with notches in them.
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Re: Girlinhat: Proficient Metal Crafter
« Reply #158 on: October 21, 2011, 05:09:47 pm »

Performance:

Iron is more likely to rust.
On the other hand, bronze does not hold an edge quite as well.
Early iron swords were made by novices to iron-forging, while bronze swords were at their peak. Early iron swords were not forged by masters of iron-working, while comparable bronze weapons were.
However, overall, the difference in quality between wrought iron and bronze weapons is not large.

Economics:

Bronze could be worked from the heat of a wood fire.
Iron requires much higher temperatures, and so became feasible only after coal and better forge methods became available.
However, forging arms grade bronze depends on the ~7% tin content, and tin is rarely found in the same place as copper, while iron is more abundant. Once the forging tech reached the needed level, it was easier and cheaper to simply make iron instead.
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Re: Girlinhat: Proficient Metal Crafter
« Reply #159 on: October 21, 2011, 08:18:58 pm »

Just ordered some scales, should be here in about two weeks, maybe less. Living in canada is awsome.
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Re: Girlinhat: Proficient Metal Crafter
« Reply #160 on: October 21, 2011, 09:36:11 pm »

Did you get rings for them too?  Just scales aren't useful, you need rings to join them.

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Re: Girlinhat: Proficient Metal Crafter
« Reply #161 on: October 21, 2011, 11:39:26 pm »

I can easily make my own rings from galvy. I bought a 1/4 mile roll last year and it's still going. I just need to figure out a jig for cutting the rings.
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Re: Girlinhat: Proficient Metal Crafter
« Reply #162 on: October 22, 2011, 12:32:54 am »

That, or if you have some strong material to use as a lace and can punch holes in the scales, you could make lamellar.
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Re: Girlinhat: Proficient Metal Crafter
« Reply #163 on: October 22, 2011, 01:53:27 am »

Converting scales to lamellar is a waste of perfectly good scales.  There's much better ways to tackle lamellar.  If you're going that route, you could use zip-ties to weave scales!

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Re: Girlinhat: Proficient Metal Crafter
« Reply #164 on: October 23, 2011, 02:27:55 pm »

Converting scales to lamellar is a waste of perfectly good scales.  There's much better ways to tackle lamellar.  If you're going that route, you could use zip-ties to weave scales!

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