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[Greiger]

Trolls I don't really want to handle, but spammers I could do.

Hehe I agree with the not wanting to deal with trolls part.  I've been an admin of the DFC steam group almost since it began and the only time I ever made an administrative decision on the TF2 server, I was haunted for months whether or not it was the right decision. (Turns out it probably wasn't, but whatever, point is the ones adminned probably forgot about it before I did)

I would hate to end up with the responsibility to deal with trolls here.  Would give me nightmares.

[TheBronzePickle]

Actually, CAPTCHA uses two randomized words from scanned volumes of old newspapers with lines drawn through them in an attempt to use people to digitalize the issues. I think that the captcha might actually take anything you input as long as it's somewhat reasonable.

[freeformschooler]

Actually, CAPTCHA uses two randomized words from scanned volumes of old newspapers with lines drawn through them in an attempt to use people to digitalize the issues. I think that the captcha might actually take anything you input as long as it's somewhat reasonable.

Not if it's a one-word captcha with randomized letters. The two-word ones used to do it with one of their words (I remember joking with my friend about this when he would enter something offensive). Maybe they still do, but I don't know.

I'm pretty sure Bay12 uses the former kind.

[Pnx]

Actually, CAPTCHA uses two randomized words from scanned volumes of old newspapers with lines drawn through them in an attempt to use people to digitalize the issues. I think that the captcha might actually take anything you input as long as it's somewhat reasonable.

Not if it's a one-word captcha with randomized letters. The two-word ones used to do it with one of their words (I remember joking with my friend about this when he would enter something offensive). Maybe they still do, but I don't know.

I'm pretty sure Bay12 uses the former kind.

The two word one you're thinking of is reCAPTCHA, I'm pretty sure the other kinds are just words that get distorted about a bit.

[freeformschooler]

The kind I'm thinking of is just a jumble of mixed letters and numbers that aren't even parts of a word. It's what most forums I've registered for use. You can make it really hard in SMF by setting some option to 5 or something.

[Aqizzar]

The kind I'm thinking of is just a jumble of mixed letters and numbers that aren't even parts of a word. It's what most forums I've registered for use. You can make it really hard in SMF by setting some option to 5 or something.

That's exactly what Bay12 currently uses, along with a randomized math-based word problem.  I have a sneaking suspicion that most of these spam accounts are being registered by paid teenagers or Chinese people, because I don't know how much more elaborate you can get than that without trivia-based registration questions, which isn't a good idea.

Honestly, the only real solution is to invest more human judgment, but the Adams' have other stuff to do and nobody really wants more moderators.

[freeformschooler]

Well, like I said, I suspect it isn't set at the highest difficulty. If it is, anything else has its own crapshoot properties.

[Zangi]

People do use the report to moderator button right?

Maybe while an escaped lunatic... or first 1-3 posts...  with enough report to moderator button's pushed by unique non-escaped lunatic accounts, the thread gets deleted?

[TheBronzePickle]

We could have a pass-around "jury duty" where people who have been on a sufficiently long time will randomly be chosen to moderate for a few days. Anyone who abuses the power can be permanently removed from the list by a vote. It would be annoying, like actual jury duty, but it could help spread the burden around.

[Heliman]

Now that's just getting overly technical. I'm sure that long-time users would be content with it themselves.


Also, Toady's on! Lets see what he thinks.

[Willfor]

Off the top of my head:

Aquizzar, Jim Groovester, Vector, Janet, Pandarsenic, Toonyman, Kael, Barbrossa, Aklyon and Duke 2.0 just to name a few. Any of the old creed would do fine.

The problem with this is two things: Bias toward the lower boards, and a problematic view of moderation. The bias is somewhat self-explanatory, and can itself be solved by including more entries from the upper forums. However, the view of moderation powers being linked to the amount of time people have been visible members is a little bit ... honestly flawed. You don't pick forum moderators based on how long they've been in a forum; you pick moderators based on their ability to remain even-headed in the midst of lots of differing opinions, and their desire to take on the work required.

Aqizzar and Duke, yeah, I could see it. Vector, if it didn't stress her out to have that much responsibility put on her shoulders -- she's already up to her eyeballs in work right now -- is a fairly even-keeled moderator. Janet, I seriously doubt she even wants to be moderator right now. etc.

[Aqizzar]

To be fair, the spambot thing is a mostly "lower forum" problem, General Discussion specifically.  At least as much as I can remember.  Adbot registers are programmed to look for things like "General Board" or "Discuss Anything" and similar such board names.  Around here, it's rare to see ad spam outside of GD here and DF General, except for the ones that just post everywhere anyway.

[Bdthemag]

Off the top of my head:

Aquizzar, Jim Groovester, Vector, Janet, Pandarsenic, Toonyman, Kael, Barbrossa, Aklyon and Duke 2.0 just to name a few. Any of the old creed would do fine.

The problem with this is two things: Bias toward the lower boards, and a problematic view of moderation. The bias is somewhat self-explanatory, and can itself be solved by including more entries from the upper forums. However, the view of moderation powers being linked to the amount of time people have been visible members is a little bit ... honestly flawed. You don't pick forum moderators based on how long they've been in a forum; you pick moderators based on their ability to remain even-headed in the midst of lots of differing opinions, and their desire to take on the work required.

Aqizzar and Duke, yeah, I could see it. Vector, if it didn't stress her out to have that much responsibility put on her shoulders -- she's already up to her eyeballs in work right now -- is a fairly even-keeled moderator. Janet, I seriously doubt she even wants to be moderator right now. etc.

Its not really a bias, no offense to any upper board goers but the lower board guys seem to be a bit more mature. Not saying that the people up there are immature though.

[Heliman]

Off the top of my head:

Aquizzar, Jim Groovester, Vector, Janet, Pandarsenic, Toonyman, Kael, Barbrossa, Aklyon and Duke 2.0 just to name a few. Any of the old creed would do fine.

The problem with this is two things: Bias toward the lower boards, and a problematic view of moderation. The bias is somewhat self-explanatory, and can itself be solved by including more entries from the upper forums. However, the view of moderation powers being linked to the amount of time people have been visible members is a little bit ... honestly flawed. You don't pick forum moderators based on how long they've been in a forum; you pick moderators based on their ability to remain even-headed in the midst of lots of differing opinions, and their desire to take on the work required.

Aqizzar and Duke, yeah, I could see it. Vector, if it didn't stress her out to have that much responsibility put on her shoulders -- she's already up to her eyeballs in work right now -- is a fairly even-keeled moderator. Janet, I seriously doubt she even wants to be moderator right now. etc.

I'm listing a lot because I'm trying not to be too specific, nearly anyone whose been here a couple of years could do it.

And why could they do it better? because they've been active enough for long enough without getting banned that they've proven that they respect the forums. A spammer or a troll couldn't match that.

Besides, this is barely even a moderation power, it's a small, useful side-ability that keeps spammers away and users in, it's practically unexploitable.

[Willfor]

Reading back, I misread the context. Points fully conceded.