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Author Topic: Occupying Wallstreet  (Read 296904 times)

kaijyuu

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Re: Occupying Wallstreet
« Reply #3390 on: July 20, 2012, 10:14:59 am »

But there are ones that fall under A but not B. B is the unnecessary one, since any "deviate" intercourse is also normal intercourse.
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« Reply #3391 on: July 20, 2012, 10:20:58 am »

It... might depend on what A was defined as. I don't think I'd like to go into details, but there's probably stuff involving a single person and accessories, ferex, that might not fit in A but would definitely fit in B, depending on exactly how the concept of "sexual intercourse" and "deviate" were identified. In other words, there's acts you might not want to really call sexual intercourse, but would definitely fit under the umbrella of deviate... something.

Would think they'd use a different word for B, but maybe there's some legal technicality behind it.
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Re: Occupying Wallstreet
« Reply #3392 on: July 20, 2012, 10:44:48 am »

But there are ones that fall under A but not B. B is the unnecessary one, since any "deviate" intercourse is also normal intercourse.
Yes, exactly.
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Re: Occupying Wallstreet
« Reply #3393 on: July 20, 2012, 11:00:17 am »

But there are ones that fall under A but not B. B is the unnecessary one, since any "deviate" intercourse is also normal intercourse.
Yes, exactly.

Except for definitions of intercourse that are limited to a married man and his wife in the missionary position at night with the lights out, the door locked and a sheet with a hole between them. Every thing else is called sodomy.

That was only a slight exaggeration.
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« Reply #3394 on: July 20, 2012, 11:20:47 am »

Except for definitions of intercourse that are limited to a married man and his wife in the missionary position at night with the lights out, the door locked and a sheet with a hole between them. Every thing else is called sodomy.

That was only a slight exaggeration.
Those all depend on your jurisdiction, as far as I know there are no districts where they all apply at once. Except the sheet with the hole thing, that's just a very stupid urban legend, and with anti-Jewish origins to boot!
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Re: Occupying Wallstreet
« Reply #3395 on: July 20, 2012, 11:35:59 am »

Sheet with a hole: I have only heard of it used to describe Mormon and Mennonite prudishness.
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« Reply #3396 on: July 20, 2012, 11:44:29 am »

I'm pretty sure it was originally a myth about the Jews, but I could see it spreading to Mormons and Mennonites. Urban legends are like that.
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« Reply #3397 on: July 20, 2012, 12:09:14 pm »

Fun fact: it actually originates from Jews having sheets separating the seats in their outhouses, and being the first to invent glory holes. Christians were obviously jealous when they rare of it and made up the myth about it being in the bedroom out of spite.

Only one word of the above is a lie.
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« Reply #3398 on: July 20, 2012, 12:16:27 pm »

"First"?
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« Reply #3399 on: July 20, 2012, 12:17:30 pm »

"Fact".
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« Reply #3400 on: July 20, 2012, 12:18:48 pm »

Then far more of the sentence is a lie than just that one word.



And this is totally about Occupy Wallstreet guys.
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For, in order that men should resist injustice, something more is necessary than that they should think injustice unpleasant. They must think injustice absurd; above all, they must think it startling. They must retain the violence of a virgin astonishment. When the pessimist looks at any infamy, it is to him, after all, only a repetition of the infamy of existence. But the optimist sees injustice as something discordant and unexpected, and it stings him into action.

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« Reply #3401 on: July 20, 2012, 12:21:27 pm »

Then far more of the sentence is a lie than just that one word.
If the first two words are actually "Fun falsehood", then none of it is a lie, as the whole thing is presented as untrue, which it is.
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« Reply #3402 on: July 20, 2012, 05:28:12 pm »

Lenovo CEO Gives His $3 Million USD Bonus to 10,000 Employees

Lenovo has earned itself top consideration whenever I'm in the market for an electronic device.
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« Reply #3403 on: July 20, 2012, 05:33:46 pm »

Stuff like that is probably going to become more common as businesses realize that shady and unfair dealing are starting to become more harmful than helpful to them. Radically fair business practice will attract both employees and loyal customers, thus making more money, thus becoming SOP for corporations once the current old guard retire or die.
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« Reply #3404 on: July 20, 2012, 11:13:20 pm »

I'm sure plenty of Bay12 has read this article already.  I've been seeing it passed around a lot the last couple days.  Going to post it here, anyway.  It should be required reading for everyone on the planet.

Global Warming's Terrifying New Math

I'm pretty well convinced that we are fucked.  I have very little hope for the future.  I sincerely regret having children, because it's painful to imagine the world they'll almost certainly be facing as they near adulthood.
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