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Re: Occupying Wallstreet
« Reply #3075 on: June 20, 2012, 07:36:14 am »

We should get them the endengered specie status.
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« Reply #3076 on: June 20, 2012, 07:59:50 am »

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Re: Occupying Wallstreet
« Reply #3077 on: June 20, 2012, 10:59:53 am »

And WikiLeaks couldn't have has access to those military documents from Bradley Manning, right?
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« Reply #3079 on: June 22, 2012, 02:28:43 am »

Guatemalan anti-mining activist survives being shot three times in an assassination attempt

Just for the record, this kind of thing happens all the time. It's good that this particular instance got some press coverage (although press sometimes doesn't prevent atrocities like this at all)
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Re: Occupying Wallstreet
« Reply #3080 on: June 22, 2012, 05:10:10 am »

Guatemalan anti-mining activist survives being shot three times in an assassination attempt

Just for the record, this kind of thing happens all the time. It's good that this particular instance got some press coverage (although press sometimes doesn't prevent atrocities like this at all)

I'm well aware.  Most people aren't.  That's what Occupy is about.

Much of South America is damn brutal towards activists... or anyone who believes in human rights at all.  Those issues just don't get any attention in the states, because we're more directly responsible for it there than in most places.
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Re: Occupying Wallstreet
« Reply #3081 on: June 22, 2012, 07:58:15 am »

Guatemalan anti-mining activist survives being shot three times in an assassination attempt

Just for the record, this kind of thing happens all the time. It's good that this particular instance got some press coverage (although press sometimes doesn't prevent atrocities like this at all)

I'm well aware.  Most people aren't.  That's what Occupy is about.

Much of South America is damn brutal towards activists... or anyone who believes in human rights at all.  Those issues just don't get any attention in the states, because we're more directly responsible for it there than in most places.
You might as well blame us for the Tiananmen Square massacre. Or the Holocaust.

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« Reply #3082 on: June 22, 2012, 08:08:14 am »

Not the tienanmen massacre, but all great power of the time are partly responsible for the holocaust.

Now, given that most of the sud african government are under the boot of Americans and that a lot of corp are american, you are, in fact, directly responsible for those murders.
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« Reply #3083 on: June 22, 2012, 08:13:29 am »

I think we are at a fundamental disagreement as to what qualifies as "directly responsible". Since this is largely opinionated and based on hindsight, this conversation isn't likely to go anywhere. I resign from this conversation.

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« Reply #3084 on: June 22, 2012, 08:22:15 am »

Not to mention the Contras, the School of the Americas, Pinochet, etc...
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« Reply #3085 on: June 22, 2012, 01:37:44 pm »

Not to mention the Contras, the School of the Americas, Pinochet, etc...

Umm... yeah... we are DIRECTLY responsible for a lot of bad shit in South America.  We actively worked to impoverish as much of the damn continent as we could.  We sent in "economic hitmen" who fed bad advice to leaders who then indebted their nations to American financial institutions.  The CIA assassinated legitimately elected leaders who expressed any shred of socialist sentiment or trained/funded/organized extremist opposition groups into full-blown coups (Pinochet being the most prominent example) and then trained/funded death squads to maintain a state of turmoil that some (Columbia) have never recovered from.

If you want to learn more about this, start with looking up "Dirty War" or "Operation Condor".  This isn't conspiracy theory stuff, either.  Much of it is told in CIA documents de-classified 30-40 years after the fact.

Or you could try the Wikipedia article on Latin America - United States Relations as a good starting point.
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« Reply #3087 on: June 26, 2012, 11:15:32 pm »

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« Reply #3088 on: June 26, 2012, 11:18:44 pm »

I don't know. It seems pretty dead to me.
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« Reply #3089 on: June 27, 2012, 12:09:20 am »

I don't know. It seems pretty dead to me.

The camps were all shut down by overwhelming force.  I had hoped that could be kept up for longer, but I guess it was inevitable.  The movement is still very active.  It's just ignored by major media, which has declared it dead... because its most visible component (the camps) has disappeared.  Perhaps I should gather some info and write up a recap of the last few months.
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In the land of twilight, under the moon
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