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[Aqizzar]

I hope the police start it but it is ugly enough to be news but not ugly enough for anyone to suffer long term injury.  It's a pretty focused kind of selfish.

It's the great original sin in the heart of every nonviolent activist.  That burning desire to get right in a cop's face and say, "If you strike me down, I will become more powerful than you can possibly imagine."  And then hope it's some other protester who gets the truncheon in the face, because social vindication doesn't regrow teeth.

[Heron TSG]

Occupy Portland was attacked today. Portlanders swarmed the parks to protect the protesters from the police, and after a long standoff with the thousands of citizens, the police retreated. Some hours later, they came back swinging and forcibly evicted everyone who hadn't left, arresting dozens. They're relocating to Pioneer Square now, and I've heard they're going to set some tents up by City Hall. Nobody's quite sure how, but a couple of (seemingly) unoccupied tents have sprung up on top of the police station.

[Heron TSG]

APEC just got occupied. With Aloha.

[Truean]

Lawyers, we've been the business interests' scapegoat for the public's problems for years, but we're once again not and never were: (Large businesses doesn't like us because we can sue them for you...).

http://news.yahoo.com/court-order-allows-occupy-wall-st-protesters-back-135130959.html

[RedKing]

Lawyers, we've been the business interests' scapegoat for the public's problems for years, but we're once again not and never were: (Large businesses doesn't like us because we can sue them for you...).

http://news.yahoo.com/court-order-allows-occupy-wall-st-protesters-back-135130959.html

And apparently the NYPD doesn't give a flying fuck about the courts, because they're clearing the protesters out right now. Laws don't mean shit if you're the one who people rely on to enforce the law. Quis custodiet ipsos custodes indeed.

[Truean]

Lawyers, we've been the business interests' scapegoat for the public's problems for years, but we're once again not and never were: (Large businesses doesn't like us because we can sue them for you...).

http://news.yahoo.com/court-order-allows-occupy-wall-st-protesters-back-135130959.html

And apparently the NYPD doesn't give a flying fuck about the courts, because they're clearing the protesters out right now. Laws don't mean shit if you're the one who people rely on to enforce the law. Quis custodiet ipsos custodes indeed.

Writ of Mandamus, show cause (contempt) or Injunction might be next.

(sorry, I speak in legalese at times. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Writ_of_mandamus )

[MetalSlimeHunt]

Occupy NYC Livestream

NYPD are going insane.

[SalmonGod]

Also; http://zunguzungu.wordpress.com/2011/11/11/the-grass-is-closed-what-i-have-learned-about-power-from-the-police-chancellor-birgeneau-and-occupy-cal/ is a bloody good read and makes quite a few pretty valid points in my opinion.

is just another way of saying that when “intransigent” individuals refuse to acknowledge the university’s authority, the administration won’t be able to exercise its authority, so it will therefore need to exercise its authority. This is exactly as tautological and contradictory a line of “reasoning” as it sounds, a rhetorical snake eating its own tail. To maintain hygiene, the students cannot use tents to keep themselves warm; to manage the space, students must be kept out; to address “conflict issues,” students had to be attacked; and to keep the students safe, they will be beaten.

Thanks for the link.  This person gets it.  I'll be passing this around.

[Vector]

So apparently a Berkeley student got shot.

Also, even the math department is starting to kick up a lot of dust.  This is serious.

[lordcooper]

So apparently a Berkeley student got shot.

Also, even the math department is starting to kick up a lot of dust.  This is serious.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2011/11/berkeley-shooting-four-students-in-lab-when-police-opened-fire.html

There's nothing to suggest this has any link whatsoever to the Occupy protests.

[kaijyuu]

Is that guy an idiot or suicidal? (or is the account that he refused to drop his weapon fabricated?)


If he was going to shoot someone, he probably would've shot first.

[Vector]

Ah, sorry.  I only heard about it second-hand, and so I'm sorry for the irrelevant link.

[mainiac]

Is that guy an idiot or suicidal? (or is the account that he refused to drop his weapon fabricated?)

Every police shooting report contains those words.  They are practically boilerplate at this point.  They shed absolutely no light on the issue.

[Truean]

Blame is a powerful thing.

The truth becomes "irrelevant" when it gets thrown around. Suddenly, things that did not happen, "happened." Vice versa applies.

[Powder Miner]

It really ha snothing to do with Occupy Wall Street though...