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Re: Occupying Wallstreet
« Reply #315 on: October 11, 2011, 09:58:54 pm »

Political parties are unavoidable anyways because they are just a form of assembly. Banning them would be like banning a religion (don't draw too many parallels here or the thread will devolve into a bigotted monstrosity).

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« Reply #316 on: October 11, 2011, 10:02:14 pm »

Uhm... who the fuck is that?
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« Reply #317 on: October 11, 2011, 10:03:41 pm »

There's a video out there of (I think) that guy getting shouted out of an OWS crowd.  If I weren't at work, I would go hunt it down quick.
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« Reply #318 on: October 11, 2011, 10:06:33 pm »

That's the very definition of a shit eating grin
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« Reply #319 on: October 11, 2011, 10:07:35 pm »

It's Geraldo Rivera, professional moron.  I don't know anything about it though.

What I do know is that the Occupy Dallas branch is being kicked out of its location at Pioneer Park, and possibly being barred from reassembling altogether, because suddenly the Dallas PD is insisting they come up with a million dollar event-insurance policy.  They're filing a federal injunction; I'll look it up when I've got time.
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Re: Occupying Wallstreet
« Reply #320 on: October 11, 2011, 10:14:04 pm »

I think this is the video I referred to.  Can't watch it myself to be completely sure.  Made me happy.
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« Reply #321 on: October 11, 2011, 10:17:40 pm »

Uhm... who the fuck is that?

Geraldo Rivera. He's an evil little man with a mustache. Hence, "bigoted monstrosity".
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« Reply #322 on: October 11, 2011, 10:20:55 pm »

Good god, I didn't even recognize him, I was so focused on that... grin...

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« Reply #323 on: October 11, 2011, 10:24:19 pm »

The joke is that in spanish, bigote means ,oustche, in casesomeone did not get it.
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« Reply #324 on: October 11, 2011, 10:27:17 pm »

I did not! That was now a glorious post.
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Re: Occupying Wallstreet
« Reply #325 on: October 12, 2011, 07:14:07 am »

About the political parties discussion:

The issue is that only candidates from those parties are ever focused on. If there's someone who has great leadership qualities and would potentially be a great president, if they aren't a Republican or Democrat, then they will probably never be heard of. If they are a Republican or Democrat, and they have any sort of centrist ideology, then they will be torn asunder by their own party and won't get the nomination.

Another issue is that there's such a HUGE monetary investment required to do anything. I would personally like some programs that would allow for more candidates to be approachable by the public as well as being automatically placed on state ballots if they have decent popular support, instead of having to buy their way through the press.
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Re: Occupying Wallstreet
« Reply #326 on: October 12, 2011, 07:16:48 am »

About the political parties discussion:

The issue is that only candidates from those parties are ever focused on. If there's someone who has great leadership qualities and would potentially be a great president, if they aren't a Republican or Democrat, then they will probably never be heard of. If they are a Republican or Democrat, and they have any sort of centrist ideology, then they will be torn asunder by their own party and won't get the nomination.

Another issue is that there's such a HUGE monetary investment required to do anything. I would personally like some programs that would allow for more candidates to be approachable by the public as well as being automatically placed on state ballots if they have decent popular support, instead of having to buy their way through the press.
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Re: Occupying Wallstreet
« Reply #327 on: October 12, 2011, 10:30:21 am »

The issue is that only candidates from those parties are ever focused on. If there's someone who has great leadership qualities and would potentially be a great president, if they aren't a Republican or Democrat, then they will probably never be heard of. If they are a Republican or Democrat, and they have any sort of centrist ideology, then they will be torn asunder by their own party and won't get the nomination.

You mean like how the democrats would never nominate a presidential candidate who's signature issue is a law imagined by the heritage foundation and championed by the republican party as recently as 2006?  A man or woman who would bail out wealthy banks with no strings attached?  Who would pass tax cuts that gave far larger benefits to families earning 5 times the median wage ($250,000 /year) then the median wage?  Someone who would continue the wars in Iraq and Afganistan to completion when ever that may be?  Someone who would expect long term cuts to government spending in order to pay for short term stimulus to bail out business?  Someone who would pass more stimulus in the forms of tax cuts (when you combine the ARRA and the payroll tax cut stimulus) then in government spending?  Because those qualities nearly universally apply to every member of the democratic 2008 field.

American politics in one hypothetical conversation:
"Centrists": Democrats and Republicans should accept centrist principles x, y and z
Republicans: not a chance!
Democrats: well, okay if it's really important we can do x, y and z
"Centrists": Gee, what's wrong with Democrats and Republicans that they wont reach out to centrists like me?
Democrats: Huh?  I said yes!  Hellooooo?  Can you hear me?
"Centrists": Yeah, such a shame nobody cares about me

In other news, the Senate is considering a law that would pair a whopping 10 billion dollars in money spent on an infrastructure bank with a tax holiday for multinational corporations repatriating money.  Because just because people are actively camping out in cities across america protesting give aways to corporations doesn't mean we should stop shoveling tax breaks on them.
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Re: Occupying Wallstreet
« Reply #328 on: October 12, 2011, 12:41:32 pm »

Oh come on, what the fuck is this :I

I can see that I'll be shoveling myself straight into grad school for as many years as possible, because at least that's better than being unemployed.  The assumption that grad school isn't worth the income drop involves... well, the assumption that you'd be getting any income at all >_>
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Re: Occupying Wallstreet
« Reply #329 on: October 12, 2011, 08:56:21 pm »

Reading the comments on that Mediaite blog about Beck was literally the worst experience in my entire life. Apperently they've got an organized circlejerk of Teabaggers who follow eachother around comments sections and upvote eachothers posts. Seriously.
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