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[kaijyuu]

Ah, that distinction makes sense.

[Leafsnail]

Yeah.  The first case, where they responded to someone asking for drugs, would not be entrapment (privacy breach aside).  But when they went on to get other people... that was entrapment.

[GalenEvil]

Just read the link posted leading to boingboing about the entrapment case. That is a very scary thought. I used to be in contact with a lot of people that would regularly ask me random things about weed. Even if it is not directly entrapment for an officer to respond positively to such a message pretending they are me I think it is crazy that a judge would say that is okay. Nowadays it is not an issue, as I no longer have a cell phone and generally respond to text messages with a phone call the majority of the time if I someone is trying to get in touch with me via a text message to someone that knows who I am hanging out with.

[SalmonGod]

If you thought the cell phone thing was disturbing, here's a piece on NYPD surveillance practices.

[stabbymcstabstab]

NYPD, Worst then the CIA.

[SalmonGod]

Another grim analysis of the consequences of climate change.

Spoiler:  From Kansas to California is a massive dust bowl almost twice as dry as the dust bowl of the 30's.

[Techhead]

It makes you wonder why there isn't major environmental lobbying coming from the US agricultural industry on the subject of global warming.

[Bauglir]

My guess? They're dependent on the fuel industry as much as anyone (I doubt tractors compare favorably to SUVs for fuel consumption), and the short-term costs of developing new technology and trying to outbid the fuel industry (an inevitable failure) outweigh the "hypothetical" long-term benefits.

[Leafsnail]

The insurance industry does lobby about it, though, since they wouldn't appreciate all the extra hurricanes.

[Techhead]

My guess? They're dependent on the fuel industry as much as anyone (I doubt tractors compare favorably to SUVs for fuel consumption), and the short-term costs of developing new technology and trying to outbid the fuel industry (an inevitable failure) outweigh the "hypothetical" long-term benefits.

I decided to do some research into it last night, and it turns out big agriculture is one of the largest (if not THE largest) carbon producing industries in the US. So, they are more or less shooting themselves in the foot, long-run. I probably should have posted here when I still had the links open.

[Osmosis Jones]

...and that didn't take long. DC police officers takes phone off bystander.

[Lagslayer]

My guess? They're dependent on the fuel industry as much as anyone (I doubt tractors compare favorably to SUVs for fuel consumption), and the short-term costs of developing new technology and trying to outbid the fuel industry (an inevitable failure) outweigh the "hypothetical" long-term benefits.

I decided to do some research into it last night, and it turns out big agriculture is one of the largest (if not THE largest) carbon producing industries in the US. So, they are more or less shooting themselves in the foot, long-run. I probably should have posted here when I still had the links open.

Really? Does this include raising animals or just growing stuff? Links, please.

[Techhead]

Articles involving agricultural lobbying:
http://www.iwatchnews.org/2009/12/10/5465/meet-lobbies-agriculture
http://www.ewg.org/agmag/2012/01/the-farm-bill-is-a-climate-bill/
http://articles.latimes.com/2009/jun/26/opinion/ed-climate26
http://www.motherjones.com/tom-philpott/2012/04/our-corn-driven-agriculture-vulnerable-climate-change
http://green.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/10/14/farm-bureau-targets-cap-and-trade/
http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2009/11/betting-farm
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0210/32643.html
http://www.stwr.org/climate-change-environment/the-agribusiness-lobby-arrives-in-copenhagen.html
These are pretty much taken at random from a single Google search

[Lagslayer]

Right... now we can't even grow veggies without killing the planet. Forget livestock, because that void would be mostly filled by wild animals.

We need to hurry up and develop our machines so we can just replace and kill off nature. Even bio-engineering better nature would work, so long as all that slack is picked up. Or we could all start eating delicious soylent, kill off excess people, and stop all expansion. Nature is becoming unsustainable in it's current form.

[Sheb]

Actually producing livestock in a responsible way is doable. Maybe not producing enough of it to sustain the current level of comsumption, but producing lots of it nonetheless. You should really check stuff like Holistic Management, those guys are actually improving the land by grazing it.