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Lagslayer

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Re: Occupying Wallstreet
« Reply #2940 on: March 22, 2012, 02:27:38 am »

I found one of my original points on pages 12-13. It was bashed hard. Then later in the thread (somewhere within the last 20 pages I think, but I can't find it amidst the shit slinging), someone proposes the same idea I had and everyone somehow agrees.

Then there was my statement that ultimately the public is too ignorant and uncaring to actually keep tabs on the government, which ultimately made the system fail. An even more recent page had a repeat comment, and nobody objects to it anymore.

There are a few more points I made, but can't find them amidst all of this.

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Re: Occupying Wallstreet
« Reply #2941 on: March 22, 2012, 04:32:12 am »

Three people posted somewhat critical points and then two of them left the forums or have not posted anything that I know of since then. Most likely nobody read your original posts.
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« Reply #2942 on: March 22, 2012, 05:02:10 am »

Guess I assumed they just went into lurk mode. Maybe it's because I haven't been able to keep up with the thread so well as of late. Oh well, carry on.

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« Reply #2943 on: March 22, 2012, 01:31:48 pm »

Student Loan Forgiveness Act

A small step forward for future students at least; or am I missing something potentially bad about this?

A second article that isn't Yahoo News

Sounds like a wise investment in capital to me.
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Re: Occupying Wallstreet
« Reply #2944 on: March 22, 2012, 01:44:58 pm »

There's nothing bad about the law itself (well, it will encourage some people who just aren't cut out for college for various reason to apply anyway, but that's not too big of an issue), but the higher education system needs to be picked apart. There's just so many expenses and fees that seem (or right out are) too excessive, professors that won't take pay cuts when the rest of the university does, etc.
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« Reply #2945 on: March 23, 2012, 01:22:08 am »

Not to mention college football coaches paid far in excess of any of the academic staff...
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« Reply #2946 on: March 23, 2012, 01:25:00 am »

College sports actually brings in a lot of money. Depends on the college of course, but they could be making more money from tickets/etc than it costs to fund them.

I mean, stuff like March Madness can be a big deal.
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Re: Occupying Wallstreet
« Reply #2947 on: March 23, 2012, 01:51:35 am »

I don't see what eridian has to do with anything.
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« Reply #2948 on: March 23, 2012, 10:41:21 am »

College sports actually brings in a lot of money. Depends on the college of course, but they could be making more money from tickets/etc than it costs to fund them.

I mean, stuff like March Madness can be a big deal.
Yeah, if they're famous for it (which shouldn't be at all, since these are ACADEMIC institutions). If they're some school with backwater sports teams, they're just kidding themselves, especially when they offer full sports scholarships, preferential scheduling, and stipends for sports players. It's a load of bull.
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« Reply #2949 on: March 28, 2012, 02:05:34 pm »

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Re: Occupying Wallstreet
« Reply #2951 on: March 29, 2012, 10:34:32 pm »

That's... welp. That's pretty infuriating. Again. Damnitall.
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« Reply #2952 on: March 29, 2012, 10:48:48 pm »

I am mildly disturbed by the fact that, apparently, lobbying of this magnitude is apparently more cost-effective than just paying the damn taxes. Apparently it would be a tiny, but not quite entirely negligible (about 1%), portion of the actual entire federal budget that we could be bringing in?
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Re: Occupying Wallstreet
« Reply #2953 on: March 29, 2012, 10:54:31 pm »

What's most disturbing to me is the magnitude of influence against us.  Within the economic/political system, we're like children prying the fingers of titans from our necks.
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« Reply #2954 on: April 01, 2012, 07:01:27 am »

By your logic, wouldn't those taxes just be self-defeating anyways? The companies in question could still just pay off the politicians or have their lawyers/accountants find all the loopholes. All it would do is add another layer of legalese that the general public can't understand. The underlying problem remains untouched.
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