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Re: Occupying Wallstreet
« Reply #2145 on: December 06, 2011, 12:25:50 am »

If I am correct, implied consent to treatment applies in any situation where the injured is incapable of making their will known to medical personnel.
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Re: Occupying Wallstreet
« Reply #2146 on: December 06, 2011, 12:29:42 am »

But if I'm drunk I can (and do!) express my opinions very clearly.  They just aren't very good opinions...
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Re: Occupying Wallstreet
« Reply #2147 on: December 06, 2011, 12:31:59 am »

It's an iffy situation when intoxicants are involved. The person is capable of making their will known (direct consent) but is in a mentally-altered state from their normal self, and thus it could be argued that they aren't able to make their real will known (implied consent).

If I were a doctor, I'd probably force their treatment under implied consent and quickly hire a lawyer; just in case.
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« Reply #2148 on: December 06, 2011, 12:55:08 am »

Let's just say it's shades of grey and what determines whether you'll win in court is how charismatic and convincing your lawyer is.
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Re: Occupying Wallstreet
« Reply #2149 on: December 06, 2011, 01:31:34 am »

If I recall correctly you have to keep them under observation in the hospital (drunkards, I mean). You're liable if you let them go and then slip and break their head, or whatever.
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« Reply #2151 on: December 06, 2011, 04:00:00 am »

The current consensus on Victorian police is there's a shocking amount of corruption in the force. Whether that's because there actually is or because it makes people feel more justified in complaining, I have no idea. But I do know that they certainly don't know how to make decisions that aren't completely pointless and come with insanely bad PR.
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« Reply #2152 on: December 06, 2011, 04:35:18 am »

Hate to say it, but police are corrupt the world over.
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Re: Occupying Wallstreet
« Reply #2153 on: December 06, 2011, 07:36:54 am »

Does that surprise you? There are always going to be people with a "flexible" and/or sellable sense of morals, regardless of profession.
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« Reply #2154 on: December 06, 2011, 07:39:01 am »

Oh, I know that, it's just apparently quite bad over here. But then, this is all hearsay. Regardless, that video freaked me out. Why the hell were they doing it? In what way did it benefit them? And the scariest thing is that girl can't do anything about it. That was a little too close to home.
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« Reply #2155 on: December 06, 2011, 07:42:14 am »

Oh, I know that, it's just apparently quite bad over here. But then, this is all hearsay. Regardless, that video freaked me out. Why the hell were they doing it? In what way did it benefit them? And the scariest thing is that girl can't do anything about it. That was a little too close to home.

Because they can. It's the disco bouncer syndrome: give an absolute nobody authority of some sort and he'll begin to abuse people, because he feels more important that way.
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« Reply #2156 on: December 06, 2011, 08:33:18 am »

I can't get over how disgusted I am by this incident.

Brutality is expected and understood. People don't do what police tell them, they get hurt. It's wrong, but at least it can be seen as the police doing their jobs.

This is more like a high school public shaming tactic. The type you'd expect from a scorned date rapist. Except there's a dozen of them, and they make this look like it's a completely normal activity for them.
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« Reply #2157 on: December 06, 2011, 11:49:23 am »

I've pretty much stopped believing that police brutality is just some bad apples in the bunch. If there were any good cops they would've stopped their colleagues from doing this. But I guess being a police officer is simply not a profession for honest folk.
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Re: Occupying Wallstreet
« Reply #2158 on: December 06, 2011, 01:10:34 pm »

Honestly, with role models like Robert Goren and Horatio Caine, did you really expect any different?
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Re: Occupying Wallstreet
« Reply #2159 on: December 06, 2011, 01:19:46 pm »

I've pretty much stopped believing that police brutality is just some bad apples in the bunch. If there were any good cops they would've stopped their colleagues from doing this. But I guess being a police officer is simply not a profession for honest folk.
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