So let's see...suspicions so far:
Orangebottle: I'm not liking his play so far, but I'm inclined to believe his claim, for now. If he wasn't claiming cop, he'd be my top suspect. If I decide it's likely a fake claim, my vote will go right back to him. However, just because he's a cop doesn't mean he knows what he's doing or is playing well, so rejecting his claim because his play has been sloppy is a logical fallacy. I've seen town players oblivious to the powers and wincons listed in the opening post (Dariush pops into mind as an EXCELLENT example), so I find it possible a cop player could get mixed up about the scum team, especially when a kill and block happen in the same night and he was under the impression scum could only do one or the other.
Native: Town vibes. Seems to be hunting and observant when he's around.
Jim: Bizarrely timid and quiet...for Jim anyway. I'm used to him finding a target and tearing into them like a pitbull, clamping down and relentlessly shaking until they either get lynched or break town and he finds a better target. His scum play is pretty much identical, except if you're careful you can detect a tinge of predatory behavior (as he's more on the lookout for a mislynch target). Town for now, I guess, since the best I can say is "you're a bit different from what I
think your meta is", and that's an outrageously weak case, to the point of not being one at all.
Shark: Newb. Requires a closer look, but I'm leaning town.
Urist Imiknorris: Let's see...
Regardless, my vote stays on you until either you can prove you're not scum or someone scummier slips up.
Again, the burden of proof is on the town, not the scum. Yes, I have pointed this out before - we'll get back to that.
I don't like this. The burden of proof that someone is scum IS on the town, but saying "I'm not convinced anyone else is scummier than you so I'm not unvoting" is a valid attitude, as is the statement that it's up to an individual player to prove they're town. The burden of proving their innocence IS on the alleged scum, either by defeating the arguments against them or finding a proper target (ideally both). Imiknorris should know this, and this is just an attempt to make Native look scummy for not unvoting OB.
You then proceed to sit on your vote against Diakron for the rest of the day, save for a bit of poking at Andrew. Why? Why not pressure Andrew while your vote remains on Diakron?
Native had already answered this a couple times (and did again in his most recent post as of my typing this). He didn't feel anything more productive would come from Day 1. I'm not agreeing with that statement, but the fact that Urist isn't attacking his rationale and instead is asking the same question that's been answered several times tells me that he doesn't really care what the answer is anyway, he just wants to bring something up to make Native look scummy.
Day 2: You begin by parroting Shark, using the lame excuse of "I got ninja'd." When I asked you about the burden-of-proof post above, you proceeded to misunderstand it and assume I meant that town's goal was to prove that the scum were town. That makes no sense at all, so why would you assume that I meant it that way? Then your entire case against Orangebottle was that he was tunneling on Shark, which isn't much by itself. Then OB claimed and you just said that it was full of holes, without actually exploring any of them. Why so passive?
So, if your vote's on Orangebottle because he was tunneling on Shark and his claim is full of holes:
What do you think of the fact that he stopped tunneling on Shark?
Would you like to point out some of these holes, other than the one that's already been discussed regarding the mafia miscount?
Native already tore this attack apart in
this response. It's a shitty case with little merit, and Native pointed out a few places where Imiknorris had every reason to know parts of it were invalid.
He's either scum or really confused - I see more of the latter, especially considering that he's having similar problems in Ockham's Mafia as well.
Despite the fact this could really help him escape the noose, OB himself proved why this is poor reasoning. Again, you know better.
Coupled with the fact that I had a real issue with how he was attacking OB about the whole vig scenario (summarized a lot better
here), I feel Urist Imiknorris thought he had a good mislynch target, did a piss-poor job of making a "unique" case on him (because apparently he believes
having a similar case is a scumtell, and thus wouldn't want to make the same mistake), and is switching his focus to the allegedly lurky Native.
McArathos, Jim, Orangebottle: Where do your suspicions lie?
I think I've made my suspicions clear enough
Urist Imiknorris.
PPE: Bah, ninja'd twice. Native tackled something I addressed, and Imiknorris kinda sorta pre-emptively answered a suspicion of mine. Still posting unaltered since pretty much everything still stands anyway.