I was rolefishing because I didn't realize it was scummy until too late, i'm not the best player.
Also I jumped back on the diak train because it was obvious andrew wasn't going to be lynched and I was hoping having a large enough vote on a player would automatically end the day, and there was really nothing more to discuss.
Also I guess this is a place where Occam's razor really should be applied.
Shark, you said you were suspicious of Noodlerex. What do you think of his replacement?
Orangebottle, care to come up with an original case, or perhaps question Shark?
I don't know anything about orangebottle really yet simpley because of how little he's posted, but I can't say I like him because it looks like he might start a train on me, he's making up reasons for my actions :/
Also orangebottle I was TRYING to use my vote for scumhunting. "I put my vote an andrew to try and prod him into saying things" is a quote from me but i'm too lazy to find the original post, so I got it from something YOU posted while accusing me of not scumhunting....
Orangebottle. It seems to me like he's trying to get attention off of him. This is related to the fact that next to andrew and diak, I was most suspicious of noodle and now you have his role.
This is the main reason that last post was bad. Look at his real reason for the vote: He wanted the day to end quickly. This was by far the strongest point in my argument for his lynch. He said he's played before, he should
at the very least understand the basic goals of Town and Scum.
I was surprised he caught me on my crap so quickly. He's better than he looks. However, he is also a bit lazy. Shark, if you're reading this, Mafia is not the place for laziness.
Also, that last bit of his post is utter tripe. Lynching someone simply because their predecessor looks scummy is terrible. They have no way to explain the actions of the person they replaced.
Okay orangebottle, hypocrisy gets old. Don't accuse others of not reading your posts when you don't read mine.
You stress how I acted scummy for jumping on the diak train for no reason. Maybe you if read my earlier post, you'd see that I was hoping that the day would end. Some games have a rule where enough votes automatically end a day. I didn't think anything else was going to happen that day, and I wanted to see if I could speed up the game.
Also, you continue to not read my posts. I said that diak was more suspicious overall when compared to andrew, noodle was still my most suspicious.. Also, because you're wondering why, I was still most suspicious of noodle because he NEVER posted besides once to sign up and once in day one. It just didn't show because I never got to question him. I was passive because I was waiting for him to speak up. I later started being less passive and used my vote and harassed andrew.
IN ESSENCE
1. You're misguided.
2. You're not reading what I say.
3. You continue to be aggresive when others don't believe you
What do you have against me?
This is his worst post of the game, I think. You should always be voting the person you find the most suspicious, and you should never be voting to end the day(that is, if you're town).
You guys are setting up this situation in your heads where whatever I answer is interpreted as scummy, this lose-lose situation. It doesn't matter what I say or do, you just don't want to hear it.
Orangebottle says I was scummy because I didn't switch from noodle quickly enough. Diakron's saying i'm scummy for not staying on him. Either way, one of of you if going to yell at me for it. Also, orangebottle is completely ignoring the parts where I point how he's being a hypocrite in his campaign against me, and native ignores that and jumps on the train.
I decided to harass andrew because diakron already slipped up, and noodle wasn't responding. Apparently, according to orangebottle, that isn't hunting. Could you explain why? Because I was, just in case he turned out to be scum. And don't tell me I should have been hunting diak because there was nothing I could think of to ask him that we didn't know, and he stopped posted. So what did you WANT me to do in your eyes that isn't scummy? Because you told me that staying on noodle was scummy, attacking andrew was scummy, and voting diak was scummy. There is no one I could have voted that would have made you think i'm not scummy, which is bullshit logic.
Native's kinda active lurking a bit, like urist said, although the part where is got ninja'd by me is legit. However, orangebottle is protecting him solely because native took his vote off of orange and is now questioning me. This shows that the ONLY thing orangebottle cares about is getting me lynched, seeing how he set up this lose-lose scenario and protects people who might be against me.
So i'm going to ask this again.
Orangebottle, what the hell do you have against me? Did I kick your dog or something?
I take it back. This post is his worst. Appeals to emotion like the first few sentences are not town behavior at all. He mistook Native for Diakron somehow. He keeps throwing the word 'hypocrite' around like it's a scumtell. He's making a lot of stuff up, or just not thinking about it enough. Urgh. Just awful.
"No, i'm saying you're scummy because you switched from the person you were most suspicious of. To end the day, not to lynch scum. That is very scummy."
Stop saying that and tell me why it was scummy, you never post any reasons. .__.
Also, how was it "To end the day, not to lynch scum."?
There's two scum. One was diak. It was still lynching someone suspicious, just not as suspicious.
Random sidenote I just thought of: If the mysterious killer is a serial killer pretending to be a vigilante, if you guys mislynch on me today, there is literally no way for town to win unless the SK kills the scum and you guys lynch the SK the next day.
Let's hope it's a vigil.
"Hey guys! If you lynch me, you'll regret it!"
Not even going to bother elaborating why that one's bad. You could get that from reading the OP of any beginner's mafia ever.
This post. I'm not even gonna quote it, it's too massive. A whole bunch of analysis and no real opinions. It just serves to confuse things.
Ok native I didn't try to convince everyone of noodle because I thought no one would believe me, and then call me scum :/, so I decided to say screw it, especially when orange replaced him.
I was being too passive on day one and now i'm trying to fix that.
Please tell me if I missed any other questions. Also, I think I messed up somewhere in that giant post. Should have done something else or broke it up into many posts, I prolly mistyped again or made a bad argument.
Ohgodpleasedon'tstartdoubtinyourselfthatmuch.
Seriously. I was being too harsh. You're going to need confidence if you want to get anywhere in this game.
The reason i'm trying so hard to stay alive is because I think it's an SK, not a vig. If it's a vig, i'm okay if I die as long as town wins in the end, but if it's an SK, town's in a lot more trouble. Today's lynch could lose town the game if there's an SK around.
If there's a vig, they don't need to claim, however, i'm pretty sure their night kill still goes through even if scum targets them, and we only get one more vig night kill anyway, right? Correct me if i'm wrong. If there is a vig, we have today, the night, and tommorow to get the scum.
For some reason, this is a huge source of newbtown vibes. He did forget the possibility of a roleblocker though.
Fine, I get the idea, everyone and their mother is telling me, it never seemed scummy to me so I didn't do it. My inexperience started 90% of today's conversation :|
I should have joined beginner mafia, but I already know how to play. urf.
Not to be a spoilsport, but if your inexperience is the topic of about three IRL days of conversation, you definitely don't know how to play. :I
I still maintain that you're being too hard on yourself. It's hard to think positive thoughts when everyone is telling you that you're wrong about this or that.
Dumb post was too wrong, didn't say what I wanted to clearly. At the very end there i'm saying that if you're town, you should at least have an opinion on everyone. Right now everyone is getting off scot free because of what I believe to probably be a town trying to lynch a town while the mafia giggles in the corner. We need a good look at everyone. If you weren't asking other people questions now, i'd call you scum, but this is a dumb town attacking town thing. For the moment, let's just drop it. Keep your vote on me if you want, though.
Native, who do you think is most scummy right now?
Imiknorris, Why are you only going after Native and Arathos?
I think Jim has enough questions for when he gets back, I don't have anything new to say off the top of my head
This is why I thought I needed an opinion on Jim. Scumhunting questions are pretty average.
The fact that diak stopped posting after slipping badly made him obvscum. Like I said before, just wanted to day to end quicker if possible so we could get to this day. I didn't realize what that change would mean to other people.
My original thoughts about halfway through day one were that diak and noodle might be scumteam, if that clears anything up. I was just more suspicious of noodle for a long time, which I explained.
His words are definitely screaming newb. Which side, though?
This post. Another rather large one. A point to him for seeing my overreaction. However, I don't understand his town leader point. That's just fucking confusing.
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