Jim: Where'd you run off to?
Jim, anything to add? What's your opinion on Orangebottle's response to your questions? Why aren't you posting?
Jim's vanished,
Oh, come the fuck on. It's only been a little more than day.
I had a busy evening yesterday. Meanwhile, everybody threw up three pages of posts and it's taken a lot of time to pore over.
My logic is thus: rolefishing is scummy. Anything bordering rolefishing is therefore scummy.
And yes, I do need to look active, what after the person I replaced lurking most of day 1. To stave off the people who have the mentality of,"Oh, his predecessor was lurking so hard this replacement MUST be scum!".
If it's scummy then it's not to the same degree as actual rolefishing. Yet you came out to start Day 2 swinging like it was the scummiest thing in the world. Why?
Justifiable self-preservation noted.
Jim:
To me, your day 1 play seems pretty passive. Probably because you've been speaking in your special IC voice all day. Stop softballing us.
I'm going to chomp down on people for things that make them scum, not things that make them noobs. If I did that the game would be over and it would be a town loss. If it looks like I'm holding back, it's because I have to because a ton of people decided they were too cool to play a Beginner's Mafia and I have to take more time to make the judgment of whether they're town or scum.
IN ESSENCE:
1.You were incredibly passive on day 1.
2.You had no reason for voting Diakron. He claimed scum after you voted for him.
3.You are a liar.
Posts like these, which you have a lot of, are why I have a hard time believing you actually think Shark is scum. You're being a lot harder on him than you really need to be or is warranted by the evidence you have on him.
Clearly he's inexperienced and has no idea how to capably defend himself. And your response to it? Practically predatory.
So, you were voting to end the day, not to lynch scum. Nice. See, that's not a town attribute at all. Town votes to lynch scum. Scum votes to lynch town and get to the night phase faster so they can kill someone. If you had truly thought Noodlerex was the scummiest, you should've left your vote there, and continued to hunt other people without it.
The time honored tactic of regurgitating mafia advice like it's gospel and going after players who don't follow it, whether they know to or not, like an inquisitor.
I won't argue it's not scummy for Shark to do that but I will argue it speaks more to his inexperience than his alignment.
Jim:It feels like he's trying too hard to look town. Not that he's too townie. Where someone else has told Andrew or Shark that they should find a BM, and told them why they were wrong, Jim's gone into a massive in-depth explanation that ended up being his entire post.
And you developed this opinion when exactly? In the flurry of activity I had between my last post and now?
Explain to me exactly how I've been trying too hard to look town. How about you quote me somebody's post who made an adequate explanation and then link me mine that is 'massive and in-depth.'
Okay. Are you going to develop the reasons behind your vote, or are you just going to sit there?
It's rare that people are convinced by a one-line-wonder.
PPE:Oh, look. It's...something. Huh. I can't really tell what. Looks like an argument with little content and a weak base.
For accusing me of trying too hard to look town, you sure look an awful lot like you're trying to out-town everybody else, what with how you're giving everybody shit for anything you can grasp at in a needlessly hostile way.
Shark,
You guys are setting up this situation in your heads where whatever I answer is interpreted as scummy, this lose-lose situation. It doesn't matter what I say or do, you just don't want to hear it.
No they aren't. Your responses to their questions are the only driving factor in their attacks.
Also, orangebottle is completely ignoring the parts where I point how he's being a hypocrite in his campaign against me, and native ignores that and jumps on the train.
Hypocrisy isn't a scumtell.
Vigilante is a pretty safe thing to claim because you can kill anyone who would counter claim. It's either that the vigil doesn't want to be killed by the mafia, or that the person is a SK. If they're an SK, then it's MYLO today, unless scum kills SK.
If anyone's got a vig claim, it would help.
This is extremely blatant rolefishing which no matter how much I look at your actions with noob-tinted goggles I can't see as anything besides scummy. Why are you doing it? Further, you're asking the Vigilante to claim so that you can be saved from a lynch.
Um, no, sorry, that's a terrible idea and still extremely scummy.
The reason i'm trying so hard to stay alive is because I think it's an SK, not a vig.
Exactly why do you think it's a SK and not a Vigilante?
Meanwhile, you've been spending all your time defending yourself against Orangebottle. Who are your scumpicks and what are your reasons?