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Tamren

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33g, ramps under trees are bugged
« on: December 27, 2007, 12:31:00 am »

What happens is if you designate "dig ramp" on a tile under a tree. The tile gets dug out, the lower part of the ramp appears. The tree is still there. Furthermore once you cut the tree down you end up with flat ground. There is no sign of the upper ramp/down arrow. Which ends up covered.

Now either the tree should fall down because there is nothing supporting it directly once the ramp is dug. OR i should get an error message telling me the ramp can not be dug because something is in the way.

[ December 27, 2007: Message edited by: Tamren ]

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Re: 33g, ramps under trees are bugged
« Reply #1 on: December 27, 2007, 07:23:00 am »

IMO, the tree should fall down, since you dug out it's support.  Definately a bug.
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Re: 33g, ramps under trees are bugged
« Reply #2 on: December 27, 2007, 07:36:00 am »

To fix that, just channel the tile over the hidden ramp. That will leave the ramp intact and clear out the tile youre seeing.

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Also, this was present in a few version before this. 33e at least.

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Re: 33g, ramps under trees are bugged
« Reply #3 on: December 27, 2007, 02:54:00 pm »

Isn't it still supposed to be that when you dig from the same level as the ramp you don't remove the floor on the level above? Sounds like what you're describing to me.
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Re: 33g, ramps under trees are bugged
« Reply #4 on: December 28, 2007, 01:02:00 pm »

Dwarves will dig a ramp series from the top down fairly reliably. Tunneling up with ramps however I've not gotten to work properly.
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Re: 33g, ramps under trees are bugged
« Reply #5 on: December 28, 2007, 02:16:00 pm »

quote:
Originally posted by Silveron:
<STRONG>Dwarves will dig a ramp series from the top down fairly reliably. Tunneling up with ramps however I've not gotten to work properly.</STRONG>

It has to do with the way the game views ramps, there's a number of threads on it and it has to do with the fact that it removed the floor for that upper tile, but didn't clear out the tile itself, do the dwarf can't stand on the ramp there to mine out around it.

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Re: 33g, ramps under trees are bugged
« Reply #6 on: March 19, 2008, 12:23:00 am »

FYI, the description on the bug list says 'open space' but I just recently saw this in 176.38c and the floor was still there with the tree.

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Originally posted by Draco18s:<STRONG>It has to do with the way the game views ramps, there's a number of threads on it and it has to do with the fact that it removed the floor for that upper tile, but didn't clear out the tile itself, do the dwarf can't stand on the ramp there to mine out around it.</STRONG>

I just did this in 176.38c and it sure seems to have cleared the tile above. There were even two pieces of rock on the ramp. Still can't dig any of tiles around the open space though.

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Re: 33g, ramps under trees are bugged
« Reply #7 on: March 19, 2008, 12:33:00 am »

quote:
Originally posted by Ziusudra:
<STRONG>I just did this in 176.38c and it sure seems to have cleared the tile above. There were even two pieces of rock on the ramp. Still can't dig any of tiles around the open space though.</STRONG>

Is there a floor anywhere next to the ramp on the upper level?

If no, there's your problem.

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Re: 33g, ramps under trees are bugged
« Reply #8 on: March 19, 2008, 02:39:00 pm »

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Originally posted by Draco18s:<STRONG>
Is there a floor anywhere next to the ramp on the upper level?

If no, there's your problem.</STRONG>


I am aware of the game mechanism that causes that problem, I was refuting your claim that digging the ramp "removed the floor for that upper tile, but didn't clear out the tile itself, do [so] the dwarf can't stand on the ramp there to mine out around it."
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