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Author Topic: Melissia's ventures into the greater world of Dwarf Fortress.  (Read 35643 times)

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« Reply #495 on: October 14, 2011, 09:09:06 am »

Peeking at the Raws on the wiki shows that Green Glass has a much lower density than Copper but is %50 sharper, so bladed parts should be more effective - but im no expert at divining runes raws.
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« Reply #496 on: October 14, 2011, 10:01:23 am »

I'm pretty sure that glass traps are good against unarmored foes but don't do much against armored ones. So it depends on what you want them to do.
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« Reply #497 on: October 14, 2011, 10:07:37 am »

Glass is an excellent choice for dodge'em corridors.
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« Reply #498 on: October 14, 2011, 05:21:47 pm »

How would I go about testing this out in arena?
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« Reply #499 on: October 14, 2011, 07:55:23 pm »

I have been using green glass serrated discs in my last two forts as an early trap mainstay.

Murderous on wildlife (badgers), annoying creatures (badgers), and lightly/unarmored intruders (goblin kidnappers).  Somewhat effective on trolls and other goblins, but mainly due the occasional limb hit.  Since I had silver and copper about I tended to put the glass discs in traps along with silver war hammers and copper picks.  And if you trade for trap components bits made out of harder materials (bronze, iron, steel) round things out and appear to work fairly well until the metal industry gets caught up or you harvest enough goblin weapons to stock the weapon traps.

I also built my entire magma pump stack out of green glass (corkscrew, tube, glass block).  You don't run out of sand.  I also do made green glass vials for trade - they hold golden salve quite nicely.*

* - My other fort had plentiful kaolinite.  I ran a porcelain industry via magma kilns and used that for internal use and simply trading high quality pots.

And I'd say to go down for magma ASAP in any case.  You could run the various industries converting wood to charcoal to power everything but that will be a lot of woodcutting, hauling, burning for charcoal, hauling, burning to heat workshop - as compared to the work establishing a magma heated equivalent.
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Re: Melissia's ventures into the greater world of Dwarf Fortress.
« Reply #500 on: October 14, 2011, 08:11:41 pm »

Once you get to metals that are made for holding an edge glass becomes pointless. The huge amount of damage discs do over an area which makes them great for lopping off limbs comes from the disc itself, not the material. Glass used to randomly generate an edge value at one point (meaning it could be as good as useless, or as good as adamantine if you were lucky with no guarantee of any) this was fixed and now it's better to juse use metal.

Correct me if im wrong, this is all being dragged out of a murky swamp i call memory.
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Re: Melissia's ventures into the greater world of Dwarf Fortress.
« Reply #501 on: October 14, 2011, 10:46:40 pm »

Well, I just intend to use it as a cheap trap used en masse as glass serrated disks.  I can add in other traps later on.  Silver warhammers and cage traps probably.
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« Reply #502 on: October 15, 2011, 09:09:09 am »

Prospector (dfhack, "prospect all") revealed this:

Tetrahedrite 186396
Galena 135627
Cassiterite 86858
Native Gold 86724
Sphalerite 77267
Native Silver 46536
Raw Candy 9845
Garnierite 9471
Malachite 5283
Horn Silver 3977
Bismuthinite 703
Naive Platinum 171


And this is in a 4x7 territory.... there's more badgers in these thar hills than there is iron.
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« Reply #503 on: October 15, 2011, 09:19:31 am »

Prospector (dfhack, "prospect all") revealed this:

Tetrahedrite 186396
Galena 135627
Cassiterite 86858
Native Gold 86724
Sphalerite 77267
Native Silver 46536
Raw Candy 9845
Garnierite 9471
Malachite 5283
Horn Silver 3977
Bismuthinite 703
Naive Platinum 171


And this is in a 4x7 territory.... there's more badgers in these thar hills than there is iron.

I smell the making of a bling fortress!
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« Reply #504 on: October 15, 2011, 09:32:16 am »

I smell the making of an army equipped with silver hammers and bronze armor... or brass, dunno which is better for armor.
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« Reply #505 on: October 15, 2011, 09:34:32 am »

I smell the making of an army equipped with silver hammers and bronze armor... or brass, dunno which is better for armor.

Bronze i think. Brass is for decorative purposes with a net value of the bars greater than the pure bars you get from the ores.
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« Reply #506 on: October 15, 2011, 09:35:28 am »

Silver and bronze it is. 

The good news is there's a nice amount of gold, if only I can find it (as I said, it's 4x7, and I'm roughly in the middle).

Actually I already made my trade depot out of silver.  My dwarves have happy thoughts by passing over it.
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« Reply #507 on: October 15, 2011, 09:54:02 am »

I commissioned four green glass statues to surround my entryway.  So far they've made a statue of a minotaur, the statue of Inod the god of mercy and forgiveness, and a statue of a hydra.
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« Reply #508 on: October 15, 2011, 10:26:47 am »

Broke into a cavern  I see a flesh ball.  How would I go about capturing it so I can train hammerdwarves on it?
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« Reply #509 on: October 15, 2011, 10:32:40 am »

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

I'm starting to like that dwarf.
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