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[BishopX]

This is awesome! Can you put me down as an administrator, preferably on the conquered ape planet?

Also, what does genetic modification do? Can we use it to bring the apes closer into line with humanity?

[NRDL]

Yes, we should experiment on them, if possible, "civilize them".  Genetically. 

[Paul]

This is awesome! Can you put me down as an administrator, preferably on the conquered ape planet?

Also, what does genetic modification do? Can we use it to bring the apes closer into line with humanity?

It just allows you to modify a race's tolerances for oxygen, gravity, and temperature. They become a separate species, so if they get below 10% of empire population they get upset because they're a minority. Thats why you kinda have to do it large scale or not at all.

It takes a while to modify them though. Each genetic modification center converts 0.25 million per year. You would need hundreds of modification centers to modify an entire race in any reasonable time frame, and you can only modify them once (can't make new races from a new race) so you would have to do all your research up front and get what you wanted before you started.

In one game I modified about 4 billion humans to withstand +8 degrees of variance in temperature and -10 C difference in base temp. It took 635000 research points and I built 2000 genetic modification centers to do it, and it took about 10 years to complete (including some time moving the genetic modification centers around to my colonies). It didn't really accomplish anything, since for the same effort I could have developed super terraforming tech and built a fleet of terraforming ships to just terraform worlds more. It ended up giving a range of -18 to 42 instead of the default 0 to 44, which did let me terraform some worlds to 0 cost that would otherwise require infrastructure but wasn't really that useful for the effort involved.

Another game I converted a billion people with -50% base gravity and transformed them on mars (they couldn't live on Earth anymore) and used them to colonize low gravity worlds - including Earth's moon, Io, and Ganymede.

As far as making the aliens closer into line with humanity, assuming their tolerances are off to the point that they can't live on worlds that Humans can live on you could change their tolerances to the point that they could. But it would be a pretty big effort to convert them just so they can live on the same worlds as Humans (or so that their homeworld can be terraformed and Humans can move in without infrastructure).


And I'll put you in as an administrator in charge of the planet as soon as we actually conquer them It'll be a few years before we actually get the ground forces to force their surrender. They're stubborn apes that don't want to be conquered.

It's interesting seeing the mechanics of conquest for this situation. The only civilizations I conquered in other games were low population civs with ships to defend themselves. In their cases wiping out the fleets was the hard part, I wound up conquering the homeworlds simply by nuking a few of their troops and landing a division of my own to mop them up. This is the first time I've had one with such high population, determination, and militancy that they refuse to surrender even with what amounts to about two and a half divisions of troops occupying their world. They were low tech, and their 66 battalions were decimated by my 30 battalions (of which 4 were replacements), but now they want triple that just to surrender

[NRDL]

This is like Planet of the Apes in reverse or something, they are just too stubborn to quit, I'll give em that. 

But all must fall beneath the might of the Roman Republic. 

[Ehndras]

...In all honesty, I would have withdrawn all the troops to the nearest moon/planet and nuked the planet a few times to decimate some of that pop, then returned the troops. All those years of training when you can easily clear the apes' herd a bit to simplify things. I'm pretty sure they'll learn to respect the Roman Empire when fire rains down upon their villages and towns across the span of their world, annihilated every trace of what once lived there.

Indestructible soldiers and fire-rain, what's not to hate if you're a simple humanoidal ape species?

[Paul]

Well, bombarding the planet any at all - be it by missiles or beam weapons - is going to stir up enough dust to freeze the hydrosphere, dropping the temperature significantly.

That would require significant terraforming to fix, and by the time you unfreeze the hydrosphere it will probably go up above the Motala tolerances and then you have to undo most of the terraforming you did to get it back within their tolerances.

So a few minutes of bombardment would cause an ecological disaster that would take many years to fix. This world and the species on it are in a pretty precarious position bombardment-wise. Just a teeny bit colder and everything goes to hell.

[Akigagak]

Could we warm it up a bit for them, so that if it ever gets bombarded in the future it doesn't turn in a giant spinning ape-people icicle?

[LostCosmonaut]

Alternatively, we could park our terraformers over the plan, add some fluorine, and then remove it once the population drops acceptably.

[Paul]

Well, if you guys want to mass murder the civilian population just to conquer them a few months sooner, sure.

Or we could just spend a couple years training more garrison troops and conquer them without killing them off. They only take about 7 months to train each, and we have 5 facilities - so training 15 would only be about 21-22 months. Add in transport time and we should have the place conquered within two years even without killing off their population.

Actually killing off the population via terraforming would take a while too. Even upping the col cost to 2 by adding poisonous gas would only kill off about 10% a year, so it would still take nearly two years to conquer them with current forces - and we'd be losing half a billion or more population.

We can go all genocidal on the next group of aliens if you guys want, nuking their world to a radioactive wasteland until they surrender and etc. These we've already pretty much conquered with troops, we just need a bit more, so we might as well finish what we started

Could we warm it up a bit for them, so that if it ever gets bombarded in the future it doesn't turn in a giant spinning ape-people icicle?

That might be a good idea. We'll have to see what their tolerances are when we've conquered them, and could always up the temp a few degrees just in case they get bombarded by something in the future.

[Sheb]

Yeah, population is money. Don't forge that one.

[Ehndras]

Bah, lets do it the long way then. There will be other xenos to annihilate

[Iituem]

Yes, remember your Sun-Tzu!  The aim of war is not to destroy your enemy, but to capture his resources intact.  We can get an army of super-soldier ape men from Motala Prime, we just need to put them in armoured cryo-suits for combat!

[Paul]

Administrator Lucius Amatius Proculus' Personal Log, 25th July, 2137

The 11th Fons Vitae just launched and headed to Mercury. #12 is scheduled to launch in August and will be sent to Mercury as well.

The atmosphere of Struve 2398-A III now has breathable levels of oxygen. Now they're removing the 0.3215 atm of Methane, which will take about 7 years at current terraforming rates.

Administrator Lucius Amatius Proculus' Personal Log, 1st September, 2137

Galerius completed research into ground unit strength 30. He could increase it by another 20%, but this would require a significant investment (60,000 RP) and would take around two years even with a heavy focus in it. We'll get the rest of the way there training more battalions, we already have 5 trained and 5 more are on the way.

I've shifted most of the labs back to their previous projects, and Galerius is now slowly working on advanced cargo handling systems.

Administrator Lucius Amatius Proculus' Personal Log, 20th September, 2137

Alexandria is under attack by robotic soldiers after the engineer teams disturbed a vault. I'm sending the Tetsudo with a brigade of garrison troops from Earth to defend the colony.

Administrator Lucius Amatius Proculus' Personal Log, 30th December, 2137

We've just established a small, new colony on Gliese 570 IV.

Administrator Lucius Amatius Proculus' Personal Log, 11th February, 2138

The 13th Fons Vitae just launched, and headed for Mercury. #14 is due at the end of the month. This last batch was completed faster thanks to terraforming modules being found on Alexandria and being transported back to Earth.

Administrator Lucius Amatius Proculus' Personal Log, 21st February, 2138

I just received a report from exploration team 2. They've explored the system of 36 Ophiuchi, which is a trinary system out past Gliese 682. The report is promising - two habitable planets requiring minimal terraforming and possessing vast mineral resources. The only downside is one of the habitable worlds, being the one with the best mineral deposits, is on a star 83 AU out from the primary. The JCS Artifex 1 is being sent to build a gate to the system immediately.

Spoiler: Report of 36 Ophiuchi system (click to show/hide)

36 Ophiuchi-A  K1-V  Diameter: 1.25m  Mass: 0.79  Luminosity: 0.33

36 Ophiuchi-A I:  Colony Cost: 26.42,  Temperature: 625.3,  Gravity: 1.26,  Orbit: 42m
    Carbon Dioxide 95%, Nitrogen Dioxide 5.0%,  Pressure: 79.63
36 Ophiuchi-A II:  Colony Cost: 2.00,  Temperature: 54.8,  Gravity: 0.65,  Orbit: 78m
    Nitrogen 78%, Oxygen (0.07) 15.6%, Carbon Dioxide 6.4%,  Pressure: 0.42

36 Ophiuchi-B  K1-V  Diameter: 1.24m  Mass: 0.78  Luminosity: 0.33.   Orbits 36 Ophiuchi-A  at 83 AU.

36 Ophiuchi-B I:  Colony Cost: 63.30,  Temperature: 1436.6,  Gravity: 1.06,  Orbit: 18.3m
    Carbon Dioxide 96%, Sulphur Dioxide 4.0%,  Pressure: 111.52
36 Ophiuchi-B II:  Colony Cost: 37.02,  Temperature: 858.5,  Gravity: 0.70,  Orbit: 44m
    Carbon Dioxide 98%, Nitrogen Dioxide 2.00%,  Pressure: 33.88
36 Ophiuchi-B III:  Colony Cost: 2.00,  Temperature: -6.6,  Gravity: 0.63,  Orbit: 86m
    Nitrogen 78%, Oxygen (0.06) 15.8%, Carbon Dioxide 6.2%,  Pressure: 0.39
36 Ophiuchi-B VII:  Colony Cost: 8.99,  Temperature: -197.7,  Gravity: 0.42,  Orbit: 810m
    Nitrogen 85%, Methane (F) 10.4%, Neon 4.7%,  Pressure: 0.16
    Total Moons: 1

36 Ophiuchi-C  K5-V  Diameter: 1.11m  Mass: 0.66  Luminosity: 0.16.   Orbits 36 Ophiuchi-A  at 3.5 AU.

36 Ophiuchi-C I:  Temperature: 221.8,  Gravity: 0.16,  Orbit: 16.3m
Asteroid Belt: 81
36 Ophiuchi-C III:  Colony Cost: 41.97,  Temperature: 345.4,  Gravity: 1.55,  Orbit: 58m
    Carbon Dioxide 97%, Sulphur Dioxide 3.0%,  Pressure: 167.87
36 Ophiuchi-C IV:  Colony Cost: 5.02,  Temperature: -110.5,  Gravity: 1.15,  Orbit: 132m
    Nitrogen 79%, Oxygen (0.28) 20.8%, Carbon Dioxide (F) 0.21%,  Pressure: 1.33

Jump Points:
 1) Gliese 682:    Distance: 223m   Bearing: 113
 2) Unexplored:    Distance: 3.3b   Bearing: 44

Minerals:
Rocky Planets: 12   Surveyed: 12
Gas Giants: 3   Surveyed: 3
Moons: 46   Surveyed: 46
Asteroids: 81   Surveyed: 81

36 Ophiuchi-B I
Duranium 53,809,940  Acc: 0.3
Corbomite 1,172,889  Acc: 0.9
Boronide 8,450,649  Acc: 0.1
Vendarite 5,731,236  Acc: 0.1
Uridium 4,447,881  Acc: 0.1
Corundium 9,474,084  Acc: 0.1

36 Ophiuchi-C I
Duranium 1,438,208  Acc: 0.9
Mercassium 451,584  Acc: 0.8
Uridium 173,056  Acc: 0.4
Corundium 278,784  Acc: 0.2

36 Ophiuchi-A I
Corbomite 2,371,600  Acc: 0.1
Tritanium 47,059,600  Acc: 0.1
Sorium 34,574,400  Acc: 0.8
Uridium 21,344,400  Acc: 0.1
Gallicite 90,630,400  Acc: 0.1

36 Ophiuchi-A II
Duranium 5,094,432  Acc: 1
Neutronium 2,196,324  Acc: 0.1
Corbomite 207,936  Acc: 0.1
Tritanium 2,030,625  Acc: 0.1
Boronide 549,081  Acc: 0.2
Vendarite 393,129  Acc: 0.1
Sorium 636,804  Acc: 0.1
Uridium 2,547,216  Acc: 0.1
Corundium 29,241  Acc: 0.1

36 Ophiuchi-C Asteroid #7
Duranium 648  Acc: 1
Neutronium 8,317  Acc: 1
Corbomite 13,271  Acc: 0.9
Tritanium 12,996  Acc: 0.9
Boronide 829  Acc: 1
Mercassium 6,273  Acc: 1
Vendarite 1,764  Acc: 1
Sorium 3,745  Acc: 0.9
Gallicite 12,188  Acc: 0.9

36 Ophiuchi-C Asteroid #12
Duranium 28,227  Acc: 1
Neutronium 5,446  Acc: 1
Corbomite 3,745  Acc: 1
Tritanium 23,963  Acc: 0.9
Mercassium 14,544  Acc: 1
Sorium 20,736  Acc: 0.9
Corundium 1,866  Acc: 0.9
Gallicite 16,796  Acc: 1

36 Ophiuchi-C Asteroid #17
Duranium 2,113  Acc: 1
Tritanium 1,482  Acc: 1
Vendarite 2,070  Acc: 1
Sorium 342  Acc: 1
Corundium 1,024  Acc: 1
Gallicite 1,024  Acc: 1

36 Ophiuchi-C Asteroid #21
Duranium 7,589  Acc: 1
Neutronium 1,592  Acc: 1
Corbomite 2,611  Acc: 1
Boronide 1,945  Acc: 1
Mercassium 282  Acc: 1
Vendarite 2,470  Acc: 1

36 Ophiuchi-C Asteroid #27
Duranium 392  Acc: 1
Sorium 2,830  Acc: 1
Uridium 306  Acc: 1
Corundium 949  Acc: 1
Gallicite 2,333  Acc: 1

36 Ophiuchi-C Asteroid #36
Duranium 85  Acc: 1
Neutronium 79  Acc: 1
Boronide 77  Acc: 1
Vendarite 4  Acc: 1
Uridium 1  Acc: 1
Corundium 16  Acc: 1
Gallicite 67  Acc: 1

36 Ophiuchi-C Asteroid #39
Duranium 518  Acc: 1
Neutronium 216  Acc: 1
Corbomite 4  Acc: 1
Tritanium 196  Acc: 1
Boronide 31  Acc: 1
Vendarite 18  Acc: 1
Sorium 40  Acc: 1
Corundium 237  Acc: 1

36 Ophiuchi-C Asteroid #43
Duranium 1,152  Acc: 1
Neutronium 605  Acc: 1
Mercassium 416  Acc: 1
Uridium 829  Acc: 1
Corundium 1,296  Acc: 1
Gallicite 2,916  Acc: 1

36 Ophiuchi-C Asteroid #54
Duranium 16,562  Acc: 1
Neutronium 169  Acc: 1
Corbomite 961  Acc: 1
Tritanium 4,096  Acc: 1
Sorium 4,356  Acc: 1
Corundium 9,216  Acc: 1

36 Ophiuchi-C Asteroid #56
Duranium 177  Acc: 1
Neutronium 49  Acc: 1
Corbomite 34  Acc: 1
Boronide 25  Acc: 1
Mercassium 71  Acc: 1
Sorium 317  Acc: 1
Uridium 31  Acc: 1
Corundium 38  Acc: 1

36 Ophiuchi-C Asteroid #62
Duranium 3,698  Acc: 1
Corbomite 4,900  Acc: 1
Mercassium 961  Acc: 1
Uridium 4  Acc: 1
Gallicite 4,096  Acc: 1

36 Ophiuchi-C Asteroid #67
Duranium 12  Acc: 1
Neutronium 3,387  Acc: 1
Tritanium 52  Acc: 1
Boronide 1,665  Acc: 1
Uridium 936  Acc: 1
Corundium 829  Acc: 1

36 Ophiuchi-C Asteroid #78
Duranium 46,818  Acc: 1
Boronide 30,800  Acc: 0.8
Uridium 68,121  Acc: 0.9

36 Ophiuchi-B III
Duranium 1,620,000  Acc: 0.7
Neutronium 1,016,064  Acc: 0.2
Corbomite 11,696,400  Acc: 0.9
Tritanium 2,396,304  Acc: 0.9
Boronide 5,143,824  Acc: 0.8
Mercassium 10,036,220  Acc: 0.3
Vendarite 467,856  Acc: 0.9
Sorium 8,088,336  Acc: 0.1
Uridium 3,640,464  Acc: 0.9
Corundium 3,640,464  Acc: 0.1
Gallicite 7,096,896  Acc: 0.1

36 Ophiuchi-C III
Duranium 65,436,800  Acc: 0.1
Neutronium 9,486,400  Acc: 0.3
Corbomite 74,373,380  Acc: 0.7
Tritanium 10,601,540  Acc: 0.1
Boronide 12,390,400  Acc: 0.1
Mercassium 22,581,500  Acc: 0.1
Vendarite 6,512,704  Acc: 0.2
Sorium 3,748,096  Acc: 0.1
Uridium 42,406,140  Acc: 0.1
Corundium 47,114,500  Acc: 0.1
Gallicite 11,182,340  Acc: 0.1

36 Ophiuchi-C IV
Duranium 6,195,200  Acc: 0.8
Neutronium 6,969,600  Acc: 0.1
Corbomite 35,808,260  Acc: 0.1
Vendarite 28,815,420  Acc: 0.1
Sorium 20,939,780  Acc: 0.1
Gallicite 58,614,340  Acc: 0.1

36 Ophiuchi-A IV - Moon 2
Duranium 882  Acc: 1
Neutronium 1,600  Acc: 1
Boronide 289  Acc: 1
Mercassium 342  Acc: 1
Sorium 625  Acc: 1

36 Ophiuchi-A IV - Moon 5
Duranium 11,858  Acc: 0.9
Gallicite 314,721  Acc: 0.8

36 Ophiuchi-B V
Sorium 111,600  Acc: 1

36 Ophiuchi-A V - Moon 1
Duranium 67  Acc: 1
Neutronium 100  Acc: 1
Corbomite 48  Acc: 1
Tritanium 72  Acc: 1
Sorium 4  Acc: 1
Corundium 69  Acc: 1

36 Ophiuchi-B V - Moon 1
Duranium 11,858  Acc: 0.9
Tritanium 261,121  Acc: 0.9
Vendarite 56,644  Acc: 0.9
Corundium 1,764  Acc: 0.9

36 Ophiuchi-A V - Moon 9
Boronide 7,157  Acc: 1
Mercassium 3,745  Acc: 1

36 Ophiuchi-A V - Moon 19
Boronide 33,856  Acc: 0.1
Mercassium 13,883,080  Acc: 0.3

36 Ophiuchi-A V - Moon 27
Duranium 45,000  Acc: 0.9
Neutronium 136,900  Acc: 0.9
Corbomite 400  Acc: 0.9

36 Ophiuchi-B VII
Corbomite 3,610,000  Acc: 0.1
Vendarite 577,600  Acc: 0.1
Corundium 1,299,600  Acc: 0.1

36 Ophiuchi-B VII - Moon 1
Duranium 48  Acc: 1
Neutronium 83  Acc: 1
Corundium 16  Acc: 1
Gallicite 1  Acc: 1

They're heading to take the other jump in Gliese 682 now.

Administrator Lucius Amatius Proculus' Personal Log, 3rd March, 2138

Exploration team 2 discovered that the jump in Gliese 682 led to the unexplored jump in Kuiper 75. This means we have a slightly closer route from Earth through Kuiper 75 to get to 36 Ophiuchi. The Artifex will gate these new jumps as soon as it finishes the gate to 36 Ophiuchi. Our galactic map has been revised to include this link. Exploration team 2 is now coming back to Earth for refueling, and will then go and explore the jump in 36 Ophiuchi.

Administrator Lucius Amatius Proculus' Personal Log, 14th March, 2138

Exploration team 3 has just sent back a report from Lalande 21185 about the Beta Coma Berenices system, a system past Gliese 526. Nothing remarkable, just a few cold worlds and some decent mineral deposits.

Spoiler: Beta Comae Berenices report (click to show/hide)

Beta Comae Berenices-A  G0-V  Diameter: 1.53m  Mass: 1.08  Luminosity: 1.50

Beta Comae Berenices-A V:  Colony Cost: 7.37,  Temperature: -162.1,  Gravity: 0.82,  Orbit: 638m, Hydrosphere 88% ice
    Hydrogen 78%, Helium 13.9%, Nitrogen 8.1%,  Pressure: 0.67
    Total Moons: 1
Beta Comae Berenices-A VI:  Colony Cost: 8.54,  Temperature: -187.9,  Gravity: 0.39,  Orbit: 1.23b
    Helium 86%, Hydrogen 14.0%,  Pressure: 0.15
    Total Moons: 2

Jump Points:
 1) Gliese 526:    Distance: 3.1b   Bearing: 180
 2) Unexplored:    Distance: 5.8b   Bearing: 183
 3) Unexplored:    Distance: 6.1b   Bearing: 89

Minerals:

Beta Comae Berenices-A II
Sorium 38,181,000  Acc: 0.5

Beta Comae Berenices-A III
Corbomite 74,529  Acc: 0.9
Tritanium 86,436  Acc: 0.9
Mercassium 148,225  Acc: 0.8
Vendarite 159,201  Acc: 1
Corundium 117,649  Acc: 0.7
Gallicite 313,600  Acc: 0.8

Beta Comae Berenices-A V
Duranium 78,826,570  Acc: 0.8
Mercassium 5,391,684  Acc: 1
Vendarite 4,999,696  Acc: 0.1
Sorium 362,404  Acc: 0.1
Gallicite 23,193,860  Acc: 0.1

Beta Comae Berenices-A VII - Moon 2
Neutronium 216,225  Acc: 0.4
Gallicite 416,025  Acc: 0.9

Beta Comae Berenices-A VII - Moon 5
Tritanium 132,496  Acc: 1

They're returning to refuel, and will then head out to explore a jump in the Lacaille 9352 system.

Administrator Lucius Amatius Proculus' Personal Log, 11th May, 2138

Akigagak and Exploration team 1 just reported in. They're headed back to Earth for refueling after exploring the Wolf 489 system, another empty system out past Wolf 437.

Spoiler: Wolf 489 system report (click to show/hide)

Wolf 489-A  D9-VII  Diameter: 22.3k  Mass: 0.35  Luminosity: 1.00E-04

Jump Points
 1) Unexplored:    Distance: 702m   Bearing: 108
 2) Wolf 437:    Distance: 2.99b   Bearing: 238

Administrator Lucius Amatius Proculus' Personal Log, 26th September, 2138

Zebulon has finalized our new shield design, which will go on the next generation carrier ships. He's now working on compressed carbon armor.

The Tetsudo is heading back to Earth with the garrison brigade from Alexandria in preparation for moving the troops from Earth to finally take Motala Prime.

Administrator Lucius Amatius Proculus' Personal Log, 22nd October, 2138

The garrison troops are loaded in the Tetsudo, and they're heading back to Motala Prime with the Vincere as escort. Soon Motala Prime will be ours.

Administrator Lucius Amatius Proculus' Personal Log, 24th November, 2138

The garrison troops have been unloaded on Motala Prime, bringing us to 2432 police strength. Now we'll move to secure the planet. Motala Prime will be ours.

Numerius has completed research on a new series of beam fire control systems, improving tracking speed on our anti-missile platforms to 20,000 km/s. The new FAC fire control will be 25 tons lighter, allowing for heavier armor or more fuel. The new designs will be finalized once a new engine is completed, which should be done next year.

A new Oculis PDC has already been designed, since it needs no engine.

Spoiler: Oculis II class Planetary Defence Centre (click to show/hide)

Oculis II class Planetary Defence Centre    50,150 tons     3245 Crew     7180 BP      TCS 1003  TH 0  EM 0
Armour 30-121     Sensors 1/560     Damage Control Rating 0     PPV 386.5
Troop Capacity: 5 Battalions   

Quad R6/C3 Meson Cannon TS20 (25x4)    Range 60,000km     TS: 20000 km/s     Power 12-12     RM 6    ROF 5        1 1 1 1 1 1 0 0 0 0
PDC Fire Control S04 60-20000 (5)    Max Range: 120,000 km   TS: 20000 km/s     92 83 75 67 58 50 42 33 25 17
Tokamak Fusion Reactor Technology PB-1 (40)     Total Power Output 320    Armour 0    Exp 5%

Active Search Sensor MR858-R120 (1)     GPS 67200     Range 858.8m km    Resolution 120
Active Search Sensor MR39-R1 (1)     GPS 280     Range 39.2m km    Resolution 1

This design is classed as a Planetary Defence Centre and can be pre-fabricated in 21 sections

Administrator Lucius Amatius Proculus' Personal Log, 29th November, 2138

Victory! Our ground forces have crushed the remaining resistance and captured Motala Prime. Their vast wealth is ours. We've looted 581987 denarii worth of goods, giving us plenty of wealth for the foreseeable future.

Spoiler: Loot! Oh, and victory. (click to show/hide)

Their total population is a whopping 3624.75 million. All total, we only have 1508.5 million humans spread across our colonies - meaning these aliens make up 70% of our empire's population now. BishopX, a skilled young administrator who has overseen the mining operations on Proteus for a few years now, has been placed in charge of Motala Prime. His skill at handling money and mining operations should make him a real asset in charge of this world (40% wealth creation, 25% mining bonus). Even with the political instability, he expects to collect around 20299 wealth in taxes from the world.

I've put in a civilian contract to move 100 mines from Earth to Motala Prime so they can begin mining operations. We'll also be moving the 10 tracking stations that just completed construction there.

Sadly, we won't be able to move the troops off of Motala Prime for a while as they are needed to keep these apes under control. More garrison battalions will be trained and moved here, then our main forces can be moved back to Alexandria and Earth.

Earth has begun producing a second sector command center so we can include Motala Prime in Earth sector, as well as the new colony in Gliese 570. With all the extra wealth we can produce at 100%, so it should be ready in January.

________________________________________________

We're rich! 

Also, a somewhat humorous note: Motala Prime's main export is entertainment products, something which all of our human colonies have import requirements. So I guess the apes are going into showbiz or something.

Anyway, now that we've conquered the apes, what do we do with them? So far I'm just sending mines there and they'll mine minerals for us and pay us lots of money in taxes.

[Vactor]

I would say don't give them industrial complexes, i'm not sure if subjugated nations can even regain independence, but from an RP perspective, the ability to create TN facilities should be reserved for the true citizens of the empire.

[BishopX]

I've got a planet full of rich rock star monkeys! Awesome!

Any chance we can see the updated galactic map? It's getting kind of hard to follow all the new discoveries.