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[Teronsuke]

I know what you mean.  I'm just saying that making such a mod is just... theme-breaking.  Unless you're playing humans or... any non-dwarves.

It'd be like making a DF mod where there's no magma ...

No... magma?

But... magma...

and the magma....

Magma?
MAGMAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Necro cancels post: Throwing tantrum.
An orthoclase floodgate has been destroyed!

That floodgate was an artifact!

I PUT MY LIFE INTO THAT!

Teronsuke has gone berserk!

[crekit]

I also use them [bridges] a lot for scaffolding over inaccessible areas since they use less material and you can recover the material when you deconstruct them.

*FACEDESK FACEDESK FACEDESK FACEDESK*

Well that will save some armok damned time.

[Xen0n]

I also use them [bridges] a lot for scaffolding over inaccessible areas since they use less material and you can recover the material when you deconstruct them.

*FACEDESK FACEDESK FACEDESK FACEDESK*

Well that will save some armok damned time.

Yeah, I also thought that was a rather clever way to use bridges.  The more you know.

[Necro910]

I know what you mean.  I'm just saying that making such a mod is just... theme-breaking.  Unless you're playing humans or... any non-dwarves.

It'd be like making a DF mod where there's no magma ...

No... magma?

But... magma...

and the magma....

Magma?
MAGMAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Necro cancels post: Throwing tantrum.
An orthoclase floodgate has been destroyed!

That floodgate was an artifact!

I PUT MY LIFE INTO THAT!

Teronsuke has gone berserk!

And so begins the tantrum spiral of this thread.

Necro has enjoyed a good fistfight lately.

[Xen0n]

I know what you mean.  I'm just saying that making such a mod is just... theme-breaking.  Unless you're playing humans or... any non-dwarves.

It'd be like making a DF mod where there's no magma ...

No... magma?

But... magma...

and the magma....

Magma?
MAGMAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Necro cancels post: Throwing tantrum.
An orthoclase floodgate has been destroyed!

That floodgate was an artifact!

I PUT MY LIFE INTO THAT!

Teronsuke has gone berserk!

And so begins the tantrum spiral of this thread.

Necro has enjoyed a good fistfight lately.

Well, the topic is "The changes that will break you," so apparently we just have the evidence now.

[Musashi]

Necro910 has prohibited the export of magma.

I'm actually looking forward to seeing creatures that can dig, bridge channels, and remove constructions.  The cheap, exploit-based tactics we use now will become obsolete and we'll actually have to carefully plan our defenses, so we may end up seeing things like star forts out of necessity rather than creativity.  Of course, if Toady doesn't fix the painfully slow rate at which walls and floors are built...

For starters, I'm sigging that first part.
Back on-topic: digging creatures? We'll just do what we've done with trolls and supports before the former got fixed, and have the latter support large enough platforms that will instantly crush everything underneath. Replace supports with walls. Instant cave-ins! Win!

[Xen0n]

Necro910 has prohibited the export of magma.

Overseer Necro910 has mandated the export of magma.  To everywhere.

Fix'd that for you.

[Girlinhat]

A magma moat cannot start a fire, unless it overflows and touches grass.  In Minecraft, magma generates sparks of a sort, which pop off the surface and can cause grass and wood to catch flame.  In DF, magma will catch fire to whatever occupies the same tile.  A wooden door is safe, as long as it's closed.  When it opens, then the magma occupies the same tile as the door and fire occurs.  You can build a magma moat 1Z under the surface, and it'll be safe, but if you're very cautious you can build a stone floor border around the moat.

I'm entirely looking forward to edible syndromes!  One of my first projects will be to make a sort of potion that causes the creature to become super-powered, but to slowly lose their sanity.  The praised outcasts, beloved for their defense of the fort and terrifying for their abuse on civilians, they are both hated and essential.

I'm also looking forward to when I finally reach mountainhome status and my monarch arrives, and immediately transforms into a were-badger and slaughters THE WHOLE FORT!

[Psieye]

Once we can do things away from just our fort embark area (i.e. pillage other settlements), we may no longer care to wall ourselves in. A 200 goblin siege to be exploited with path-finding and bridges just won't feel epic enough compared to the 2000 goblin army you can fight out there with a 1000 steel-clad dwarf army of your own.

Then again, I suppose people who like epic battles figure out the military one way or another and it's those who don't want to deal with the military (or epic deathtraps with magma/undead/syndromes) that use the more 'automated' options for dealing with sieges.

[Girlinhat]

Automated death will always be fun for the sheer value of automated death.

[Tharwen]

A magma moat cannot start a fire, unless it overflows and touches grass.  In Minecraft, magma generates sparks of a sort, which pop off the surface and can cause grass and wood to catch flame.

Well... sort of. It's actually just a random chance for all blocks within a certain radius. The sparks are only visual.

Now, if Dwarf Fortress had sparks, there would be infernos starting up all the time just because the furnace operator's kitten walked too close when he was forging a trifle pewter sceptre.

[FearfulJesuit]

That would be excellent!

[Psieye]

Automated death will always be fun for the sheer value of automated death.

Hmm, I guess that's why people make cheap ways to kill sieges when they could just switch off invasions. I foresee some players being broken by the trap 'nerf' in the Army Arc, though it would be a very welcome change to have more flexible traps.

[crekit]

Automated death will always be fun for the sheer value of automated death.

Hmm, I guess that's why people make cheap ways to kill sieges when they could just switch off invasions. I foresee some players being broken by the trap 'nerf' in the Army Arc, though it would be a very welcome change to have more flexible traps.

Well, at least it would motivate me to finish my megatraps. Currently the only reason I want a flood able entrance hallway is to clear out the mobs that idle after their leader is caged. And turning off the civilian alert usually works for that too.

[KtosoX]

...
I foresee some players being broken by the trap 'nerf' in the Army Arc, though it would be a very welcome change to have more flexible traps.

Like "Moving fortress sections (lifts, crushing traps, etc.)" or "Rock grinders? Fans?"