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Total Members Voted: 73

[Askot Bokbondeler]

[wise words]

+1

if i may suggest an architectural style, the beehive-shaped mud houses posted a while ago were just lovely

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[evilcherry]

[wise words]

+1

if i may suggest an architectural style, the beehive-shaped mud houses posted a while ago were just lovely

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I think its fine. But Lincoln seems to be very reluctant to implement these. He stated what he exactly wanted: A brick house with wooden frames. I think most of us will regard that as ultra-luxurious for our current needs.

[forsaken1111]

[wise words]

+1

if i may suggest an architectural style, the beehive-shaped mud houses posted a while ago were just lovely

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I think its fine. But Lincoln seems to be very reluctant to implement these. He stated what he exactly wanted: A brick house with wooden frames. I think most of us will regard that as ultra-luxurious for our current needs.

I don't really. Having a single very well built structure is a good idea. It won't take that long to make it, nowhere near as long as a wall, and we probably have enough bricks and wood.

[evilcherry]

[wise words]

+1

if i may suggest an architectural style, the beehive-shaped mud houses posted a while ago were just lovely

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I think its fine. But Lincoln seems to be very reluctant to implement these. He stated what he exactly wanted: A brick house with wooden frames. I think most of us will regard that as ultra-luxurious for our current needs.

I don't really. Having a single very well built structure is a good idea. It won't take that long to make it, nowhere near as long as a wall, and we probably have enough bricks and wood.

Unless Lincoln magically says less than 200 bricks and a ton of wood can become a "very well built structure" that would satisfy our needs in the near future, I have to quite bluntly object.

We do have more mud, twigs and timber than we need, yet bricks are a scarce resource. And bricks are not invulnerable anyway - just tricky to break.

[forsaken1111]

Eh, whatever. Its not worth arguing this again. Let's just live in crappy mud shacks like savages and do nothing at all with the bricks.

[ed boy]

Eh, whatever. Its not worth arguing this again. Let's just live in crappy mud shacks like savages and do nothing at all with the bricks.

It's not as if having bricks and not using them is going to cause us harm. Besides, we need to avoid the fallacy of sunk costs.

[Alternatecash]

Exactly. Throwing good resources at a bad idea never helped anyone. And that anglo-centric worldview of yours is going to get you in trouble someday, forsaken1111.

[Ibid Straydrink]

Exactly. Throwing good resources at a bad idea never helped anyone. And that anglo-centric worldview of yours is going to get you in trouble someday, forsaken1111.

I love you.

[micelus]

I agree with the beehive mud huts.

[forsaken1111]

Exactly. Throwing good resources at a bad idea never helped anyone. And that anglo-centric worldview of yours is going to get you in trouble someday, forsaken1111.

Not really sure what you mean by this. I advocated building a brick structure to shelter us from severe weather, something which others have also said. What about this is 'anglo-centric'?

[Ibid Straydrink]

I think he was mostly being sarcastic, but playing of the fact that the huts of the "savages" in question are really just the well-adapted and comfortable houses of a non-European culture.

[Alternatecash]

Brick houses are labor intensive and resist environmental extremes poorly, as sharp angles and sheer surfaces cope poorly with wind, rain, and snow. Mud structures insulate better, are easier to construct, and if needed, can be built to blend with the scenery better. Your only objection to them is that they're "Primitive". By whose standards?

[forsaken1111]

I think he was mostly being sarcastic, but playing of the fact that the huts of the "savages" in question are really just the well-adapted and comfortable houses of a non-European culture.

I wasn't commenting on the picture, I was commenting in the perception ingame that the traders will have of our naked stick-wielding mud-hut-dwelling villagers.

Brick houses are labor intensive and resist environmental extremes poorly, as sharp angles and sheer surfaces cope poorly with wind, rain, and snow. Mud structures insulate better, are easier to construct, and if needed, can be built to blend with the scenery better. Your only objection to them is that they're "Primitive". By whose standards?

I don't object, and never said they're primitive. Can we stop bickering and just build something? I don't even care what any more.

[Askot Bokbondeler]

i sugested this

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and you argued against

crappy mud shacks like savages

it implies something. for reference and comparission, mud brick might mean something like this

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so i'd say that bricks=sophistication isn't necessarily always true


also, arguing that building things out of bricks is anglocentric is actually anglocentric itself. many people built things out of bricks in many parts of the world before people in great britain ever did, and the english architecture, and culture in general, hasn't been that different from that of the rest of europe, so the word you guys are looking for is europocentric, even if it's still a bit fallacious.

[forsaken1111]

Honestly if I had my way we'd uproot the village and live in the ravine in caves like proper dwarves.