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Who should we side with?

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We gonna stick it out on our own!
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Re: Build a village: A New Hope
« Reply #630 on: September 25, 2011, 08:16:28 am »

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Re: Build a village: A New Hope
« Reply #631 on: September 25, 2011, 08:19:42 am »

Yeah, moving the lag first is best. We cannot extand the wall much with earth anyway.
Actually we have tons of dirt Lincoln just put it off screen, so as not to put to much on the picture.
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Re: Build a village: A New Hope
« Reply #632 on: September 25, 2011, 08:25:42 am »

No, I meant that we don't have the time to expand it much before nightfall.
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Re: Build a village: A New Hope
« Reply #633 on: September 25, 2011, 08:29:00 am »

No, I meant that we don't have the time to expand it much before nightfall.
Oh, sorry about that, but yeah we should move the logs inside, and use them to extend, and make an impromptu wall
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Re: Build a village: A New Hope
« Reply #634 on: September 25, 2011, 08:35:41 am »

We should throw up so mine dirt walls near the logs in the village and take down that bridge for tonight.
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Re: Build a village: A New Hope
« Reply #635 on: September 25, 2011, 09:00:03 am »

Wouldnt they need nails to create structures?
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Re: Build a village: A New Hope
« Reply #636 on: September 25, 2011, 09:13:39 am »

Build more sentry fires / light the campfire / cook the rolphin
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Re: Build a village: A New Hope
« Reply #637 on: September 25, 2011, 10:51:45 am »

I like how dirt paths are starting to form where the chromies have been walking.
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Re: Build a village: A New Hope
« Reply #638 on: September 25, 2011, 12:42:01 pm »

Wouldnt they need nails to create structures?
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Re: Build a village: A New Hope
« Reply #639 on: September 25, 2011, 12:48:50 pm »

Walls should be made out of the strongest material in my opinion. Because if something can break down a wall wall made out of our strongest material, NOTHING ELSE WILL STOP IT.

Weigh the benefits with the costs. How much of that brick wall could we have finished with our limited manpower and resources, how much more defensible would that actually have made our encampment, and how far back would using those bricks, which could be used for something else down the line put us?
Enough to finish our bricks. The usage of the bricks would make a section of the wall basically impenetrable compared to the rest. The use of those bricks would've put us back a short amount of time: A day or so. We've got two brickmakers, after all.

First of all, 64 regular-sized little bricks? Anything with the intelligence of a house spider would just walk around them if we stacked them all in one place, and if we distributed them evenly around the perimeter we'd have something less effective than the dirt or logs. Thus, for tonight, dirt and logs are the best possible fortification and the best use of our time. They go up easy, they come down easy, and they're reusable. Stacking those bricks now would be like building investing in a missile silo in the 1850s.
Yes, they would walk around it. WHICH IS A GOOD THING BECAUSE THEY WOULDN'T ATTACK THAT PART OF THE WALL. I did not say we should make a wall out of bricks TONIGHT, I said we should make PART of the wall tonight.

And it's not like investing in 1850. It's like investing in, say, 1940s. It's not like a day is over 90 years or something. What we do tonight will speed up the process tomorrow and later, which is hardly far away.

Also, not using the bricks and then using wood would waste time because you'd have to remove the wood before you can put in the bricks. Not much time, but... just saying.

Furthermore, what kind of enemies will we be facing that bricks will be more effective than an equally tall (actually taller) barrier of dirt and logs?
Beaver-like creatures can eat out the wood, any creatures with paws, or any kind of hand can slowly dig out the dirt. Sharp axelike limbs may also get through logs.

You'd have to have a goddamn strong creature to dig through bricks.

Unless the GM throws some building-destroyers at us (which I admit is a legitimate concern) what is more important than the strength of the material is the defensive advantage, e.g. higher ground, distance, and impairment of the enemies' mobility.
Okay... So what's stopping us from building a raised brick wall?

But then, we seem to have a different understanding of just how useful 64 mud bricks will be. How high and how long of a wall would you say we could raise from those?
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Re: Build a village: A New Hope
« Reply #640 on: September 25, 2011, 12:53:04 pm »

not very long. i suggested to put bricks around dirt, for extra width using less bricks.
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Re: Build a village: A New Hope
« Reply #641 on: September 25, 2011, 01:00:18 pm »

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Re: Build a village: A New Hope
« Reply #642 on: September 25, 2011, 01:50:02 pm »

Weren't one of those slimes quite viscous and flammable? If so, have one of the wall-builders use the slime and some of the branches lying around to prepare as many torches as possible. Conserve these until enemies with fire allergies draw near to camp.

And dig that moat, Chloe! Oh yeah... just like that.
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Re: Build a village: A New Hope
« Reply #643 on: September 25, 2011, 02:05:15 pm »

But then, we seem to have a different understanding of just how useful 64 mud bricks will be. How high and how long of a wall would you say we could raise from those?
If I had to imagine it, it takes 6 to get as tall as a Chrome...

And two wide to be as wide as a Chrome...

That's 5 1/3 Chromes wide walls there. It may not sound like much, but every bit counts in a big way. It's like, having a another table in a barricade.



And it's not the size that matters, dude. It's saving time for later and making a part of the wall tougher than the rest.



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Re: Build a village: A New Hope
« Reply #644 on: September 25, 2011, 02:12:48 pm »

We don't need a big wall just mabye one half the size of a chrome to slow them down and stop smaller enemies.
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