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[Bohandas]

Anyways, I just honestly dont see how cyberbullying can drive somebody to suicide.

I also have difficulty understanding this. I mean, really. It's the internet.

Do you have also have difficulty understanding how offline bullying can drive somebody to suicide? Because there is no difference between them. In fact, cyber-bullying could even be counted be considered the same as somebody breaking into your home to bully you, which would otherwise be a safe space.

Offline bullying typically involves hitting, whereas cyberbullying does not.

And the kind of bullying that doesn't involve hitting only affects people who are stupid enough to care deeply about the opinions of people who are neither friends nor authority figures.

[a1s]

he wasn't the cause of the suicides.

Yes, but someone else was. That is in case you were thinking " 'stick and stones', people! This guy should pay a small fine, not go to jail! ". A lot of people do, and they're wrong.

[freeformschooler]

Anyways, I just honestly dont see how cyberbullying can drive somebody to suicide.

I also have difficulty understanding this. I mean, really. It's the internet.

Do you have also have difficulty understanding how offline bullying can drive somebody to suicide? Because there is no difference between them. In fact, cyber-bullying could even be counted be considered the same as somebody breaking into your home to bully you, which would otherwise be a safe space.

Not one bit! After all, real-life doesn't have an easy block button. You can't just start a new real life account. And you also can't just not read the posts of someone who's breathing down your ear. Additionally, you can't remain even a little bit anonymous in real life! So I don't have difficulty understanding the offline bullying suicide connection, but I have a harder time understanding it with the internet bullying.

[Lectorog]

Anyways, I just honestly dont see how cyberbullying can drive somebody to suicide.

I also have difficulty understanding this. I mean, really. It's the internet.

Do you have also have difficulty understanding how offline bullying can drive somebody to suicide? Because there is no difference between them. In fact, cyber-bullying could even be counted be considered the same as somebody breaking into your home to bully you, which would otherwise be a safe space.

Offline bullying typically involves hitting, whereas cyberbullying does not.

I'd say verbal bullying is far more common than physical bullying. It's arguably a lot worse, as well. Either way, the physical difference is rather negligible.

The most damaging thing about cyber-bullying is not the act itself, but the fact that they are bullied in real life; they try to escape to the internet, a social center in which they think they could be free from bullying. The bullies pursue them; the relentlessness is what drives them to severe depression and suicide.

That said, everyone should realize there is really nothing safe about the internet, and learn to deal with it.

[fqllve]

I think he should be IP banned from Youtube and forced to get a job.

"The court heard that Duffy lived a 'miserable existence' drinking alcohol alone at his home in Reading."

[Jopax]

While at first this seemed nothing serious enough for jail it did become after i learned that he was basically talking shit to people who lost their daughter.I am all for free speech but some people need to learn limits of common decency and three months of jail just might do it for this guy.

[a1s]

I don't have difficulty understanding the offline bullying suicide connection, but I have a harder time understanding it with the internet bullying.

Natasha MacBryde, who threw herself under a train hours after she was sent an abusive message by an anonymous bully on a social networking website called Formspring.

I know it's a 'post hoc'  argument, but apparently cuber-bullying was the last straw in this case, and did lead to (well, precede, really) suicide.

[jc6036]

Thats just it about this, I know that one can easily block somebody over the internet, or effectivly ignore them. Nearly everywhere you go on the internet has an effective way to deal with bullies. This is not so in real life. Just try pressing the "ignore" button here.

[freeformschooler]

I don't have difficulty understanding the offline bullying suicide connection, but I have a harder time understanding it with the internet bullying.

Natasha MacBryde, who threw herself under a train hours after she was sent an abusive message by an anonymous bully on a social networking website called Formspring.

I know it's a 'post hoc'  argument, but apparently cuber-bullying was the last straw in this case, and did lead to (well, precede, really) suicide.

Yeah, I acknowledge that it happens, but that doesn't enlighten me as to why.

Thats just it about this, I know that one can easily block somebody over the internet, or effectivly ignore them. Nearly everywhere you go on the internet has an effective way to deal with bullies. This is not so in real life. Just try pressing the "ignore" button here.

Exactly!

[Bohandas]

While at first this seemed nothing serious enough for jail it did become after i learned that he was basically talking shit to people who lost their daughter.I am all for free speech but some people need to learn limits of common decency and three months of jail just might do it for this guy.

  Yeah, that's terrible...

The only reason this even got to court is because it relates to the newsmedia's fabricated evil of the month. Its not the job of the government (any government) to decide who is or isn't an asshole.

[a1s]

I don't have difficulty understanding the offline bullying suicide connection, but I have a harder time understanding it with the internet bullying.

Yeah, I acknowledge that it happens, but that doesn't enlighten me as to why.

That's easy: technical ignorance meets undiagnosed depression.

[scriver]

Thats just it about this, I know that one can easily block somebody over the internet, or effectivly ignore them. Nearly everywhere you go on the internet has an effective way to deal with bullies. This is not so in real life. Just try pressing the "ignore" button here.

Exactly!

Ah, I understand why you don't understand it - cyber bullying is, in most cases, "real life" (as if the internet would be any less real) bullies pursuing you online. Leaving you no escape from them. And it's really not that hard to go around a block.

[Bohandas]

And that's why you shouldn't use your real name online.

[kaijyuu]

About "why do they care about internet bullying lol":

1) Ever heard the saying "sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me"? Well it's a load of shit. Bullying is about mental harassment, not physical. In real life, bullies are never in it for your lunch money.
2) Ignore methods exist on the internet, yes, but they're far from impenetrable to someone who cares to bypass them.
3) Therefore, internet bullying can be just as devastating as real life bullying.


I'm all for letting people say whatever they like, as I said earlier, but harassment is another matter. Say something mean once, and you have the benefit of the doubt on your side that you're just stating your opinion. Say it over and over despite protests, and you're no longer trying to communicate a message, but rather aiming to hurt.

[Leafsnail]

I still remain skeptical that cyberbullying really has any appreciable negative effect (unless you count the efforts made to stop it). If it did than all of the world's major politicians and entertainers would be dead from suicide, because they all get trashed on all the time.

Clearly everyone has the same constitution as a politician.  Noone is, say, emotionally vulnerable (perhaps due to heavy stress in their lives, past abuse or mental illness) or open to manipulation.  And if someone like that did exist they deserve to die, apparently.

Incidentally, calling the person who died after being hit by a train a whore is slander.  You can't just ignore it if someone is loudly and publically disgracing the memory of a loved one - I would certainly try to stop it.