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Re: 11th of September, 2001
« Reply #75 on: September 12, 2011, 03:58:23 am »

I was home sick from middle school, either really or because I put forth the effort to pretend to be sick enough with a cold to stay home.

I was watching cartoons, classic Looney Tunes I believe it was on Cartoon Network, since we were able to afford cable television for the first time after my mom passed away from lung cancer. I remember in those days there was a storm and emergency warning system mandated for all channels where text would flow across the bottom of the screen.

At first I thought it was a storm warning and ignored it. After I read it, I pondered how it was strange that they would bother using an emergency system to tell anyone watching cartoons that a plane accident had happened. After it repeated immediately after the first scroll I decided it was important enough to check the news and quickly realized it wasn't an accident, despite how hopeful the reporter may have sounded when discussing the possibility before the second plane hit. I had managed to turn the channel in time to see the second plane and footage of people jumping from the building(s) being played. The latter made me helplessly want to call and ask why no one had strung up netting or one of those inflatable things to cushion landings, although now I assume it would not have helped from that height.

I had read a large number of military history books due to my interest in video games (notably WW2 flying sims like Aces of the Pacific, WW1 flying games like Red Baron 1 and 2, and ground-pounder games like Close Combat) and I knew the country was headed to war. I had read quite a bit about the civil war, WW1, WW2, Korea, and Vietnam for my age compared to my peers, and I was very afraid for my future and was very worried I'd be expecting a draft by the time I graduated high school. Even after I graduated highschool in 2005 I was worried enough that another country would take advantage of America fighting a two front war to begin forcing a global war that I was attempting to earn a few pilot credentials, not only because I would have enjoyed being a pilot but because that way at least my possible Commanders-in-future might at least see fit to give me an excellent machine and the training to use it. I got about as far in that as can be expected in such an expensive hobby as private piloting, which is to say the pilot's ground schooling my high school assessment test awards payed for.

One thing I can't speak highly enough of the Bush administration is that they did not really try hard to institute the draft. After all, there was certainly historical precedent for such a thing, and early on it would have had some support. I'm not overly happy with the way things have worked out, but I'll always remember that it could be worse. I was angry at Bush for a long time about many things, but I'd shake his hand for not forcing me to fight for him.

As to why I didn't join the military, where I may have done a lot of good, I had watched too many war documentaries and read too many books and killed too many people in video games as the general who sends a squad of guys with rifles at the flamethrower tank because they have a few grenades left. Thinking about casualty numbers in various wars is not a way to become one. Another reason was because I hated being forced to exercise due to being in poor physical condition when I tried middleschool football, to the point that I didn't want to play anymore for the rest of my schooling. By around 2004 I had managed to work myself into good enough physical shape to be able to perform physical activities to an acceptable degree, which I am in to this day (most of the time anyways. sometimes I get a lil chubby in Summer when it's 95+ degrees hot in my room [not helped by computer exhaust] with no AC until I get back to working out again when the season cools) I simply didn't want to be forced to dance to someone else's tune. Also my early doubts about the necessity and implementation of the wars were beginning to ring true by 2005, and I had then and have a feeling to this day that my impact in the wars would be less over there than had I not stayed stateside and made my thoughts known in my local area and on the internet and to do my fighting with words against the mistakes of men on any side of the conflict.
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Re: 11th of September, 2001
« Reply #76 on: September 12, 2011, 05:57:59 am »

I was twelve, in sixth grade. Remember being upstairs at a friends place, eating candy we bought from the "grocery mobile" that went around for the old folks in the area. His mother called us down to the tv and we watched what I guess would have been a extra-broadcast news show. My friend and I made insensitive faux-cynic jokes about it, and his mother and brother got angry.

As for the importance of the event, I'd say that the "Arab Spring" and the crash of the economy is already overshadowing it.

edit: I also feel making jokes about it was childish and stupid now, if anyone wonders. But then again, I was a child.
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Re: 11th of September, 2001
« Reply #77 on: September 12, 2011, 10:07:10 am »


As for the importance of the event, I'd say that the "Arab Spring" and the crash of the economy is already overshadowing it.


I'd certainly agree with this.
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Re: 11th of September, 2001
« Reply #78 on: September 12, 2011, 10:41:58 am »

Kinda surprised nobody else made this thread.  Supposedly, for everyone under the age of thirty, the day in question was supposed to be the defining event in world history for our lives, so we might as well mention the tenth anniversary.  I don't know about anyone else, but it does seem a little hard to believe that was a decade ago.

Anyone have anything they want to say?  American or otherwise, it was pretty hard to miss.  Let's try to keep this is apolitical as possible shall we?

How about this for a question: what do you remember from that day?  As everyone asks of famous events, where were you when you heard the news?
I take exception to this.  Well not really, it just doesn't apply to me. 
Why would anyone want to define their life based on a tragedy?  One that did not directly affect them for that matter?  I can say 'nice' things, but my monkey-sphere only goes so far.

Was in either 8th or 9th grade around the time, in school.  Other students were getting texts and crying and stuff.  I didn't know what was happening till... the next day or something. 
My internets was all gaming and none of the family really bothered to watch the news or any of that sort.  I didn't really care.  Probably the only blip in my care-o-meter was that one of my uncles worked in the Trade Center, but wasn't there that day.  "Oh, he could have died there."  Then forgot about it and went about my gaming.
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Re: 11th of September, 2001
« Reply #79 on: September 12, 2011, 11:40:12 am »

I got home from school, saw the news, though "damn, must suck to be working there today", watched one and a half an hour for the other news items to come up to no avail and continued with my homework.

My most striking memories was the day after, when the newspaper had a 26 page special about the events and there was a one column, four lines large report on the last page saying "42.000 dead in in central african massacre". That started a major shift in how I view the US, which was probably the biggest effect it had on my life.
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Re: 11th of September, 2001
« Reply #80 on: September 12, 2011, 02:04:13 pm »

What I remember from that day, I saw the news about the WTC, but got a bit distracted with the local news about over 1000 people getting killed in a fireworks accident.
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Re: 11th of September, 2001
« Reply #81 on: September 12, 2011, 02:12:50 pm »

My most striking memories was the day after, when the newspaper had a 26 page special about the events and there was a one column, four lines large report on the last page saying "42.000 dead in in central african massacre". That started a major shift in how I view the US, which was probably the biggest effect it had on my life.
Yeah, America is the loud nation, surrounded by one-way mirrors.

 I don't recall any particular day I heard about it, although I was so sure it was only five or six years ago. Maybe I only heard about it on one of the anniversaries where they replayed the footage, but I might be getting the time wrong because people are still talking about it too (why does the news need to show it if they don't have any more news on the matter?). So the event itself effected my life so little as to be completely unnoticeable, but all the "war on terror" nonsense has made a nasty hit on...a majority of the world now. Kinda sad that the nation was trolled so easily (for the war was exactly what Bin Laden wanted); kinda sad that Bush fell for it so easily; kinda sad that we chose our president based on how easily he could be manipulated; and kinda sad that we couldn't (and still can't) spot our selection errors and redesign the process accordingly. As pointed out before, very little greiving comes the disaster itself, but it's a mindless national outlet for greiving from so many other sources.

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Re: 11th of September, 2001
« Reply #82 on: September 12, 2011, 02:34:50 pm »

I was driving to community college after a night shift at wal-mart when I heard about it on the radio. I drove strait home and turned on the TV, I didn't have to be at school for a few more hours and I wasn't going to study anyway. I saw the second hit and the towers fall live on tv. It is as memorable as the time that I watched the Challenger shuttle disintegrate live back when I was 6.
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Re: 11th of September, 2001
« Reply #83 on: September 12, 2011, 02:54:04 pm »

Yeah, I tend to compare it to the Challenger disaster in my mind too. I was 10 years old for that one, and honestly that hit me harder than 9/11. The Challenger explosion was like God sucker-punched me in the crotch.

Oddly enough, I remember seeing news coverage of the Berlin Wall coming down, and West Germans slamming sledgehammers into the concrete and East and West Germans dancing together in the street but I had little to no reaction. It just didn't click with me as to how historic that was. I had a much stronger reaction to the attempted Soviet coup in 1991, because of my family's Russian ties and the general popularity of Mikhail Gorbachev in the West.
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Re: 11th of September, 2001
« Reply #84 on: September 12, 2011, 08:02:23 pm »

Yeah, I tend to compare it to the Challenger disaster in my mind too. I was 10 years old for that one, and honestly that hit me harder than 9/11. The Challenger explosion was like God sucker-punched me in the crotch.

Hmm, I wasn't alive for the Challenger, but the Space Shuttle Columbia hit me pretty hard (while, for a six-seven year old, that is). I had always dreamed of being an astronaut for most of my life up until then, and was very excited to watch it on the TV...when blam, hopes to be an astronaut went up in flames. It was horrible. :-/
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Re: 11th of September, 2001
« Reply #85 on: September 12, 2011, 08:17:40 pm »

Yeah, I tend to compare it to the Challenger disaster in my mind too. I was 10 years old for that one, and honestly that hit me harder than 9/11. The Challenger explosion was like God sucker-punched me in the crotch.

Hmm, I wasn't alive for the Challenger, but the Space Shuttle Columbia hit me pretty hard (while, for a six-seven year old, that is). I had always dreamed of being an astronaut for most of my life up until then, and was very excited to watch it on the TV...when blam, hopes to be an astronaut went up in flames. It was horrible. :-/

I don't remember hearing about it until a comedian made the joke "How many astronauts can you fit in a car?" "12. Two in the front, three in the back, and seven in the ash tray."
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Re: 11th of September, 2001
« Reply #86 on: September 12, 2011, 08:19:19 pm »

My most striking memories was the day after, when the newspaper had a 26 page special about the events and there was a one column, four lines large report on the last page saying "42,000 dead in in central african massacre". That started a major shift in how I view the US, which was probably the biggest effect it had on my life.

To be fair, while the WTC attacks were much smaller, they were already much more unusual, and therefore newsworthy in that respect. Also, they occurred in a place where readers of American newspapers are far more likely to go to. I've been to New York twice; The only way I'm ever going anywhere near the continent of Africa is if I'm escorted by the ghost of Virgil Maro
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Re: 11th of September, 2001
« Reply #87 on: September 13, 2011, 11:27:33 am »

My most striking memories was the day after, when the newspaper had a 26 page special about the events and there was a one column, four lines large report on the last page saying "42.000 dead in in central african massacre". That started a major shift in how I view the US, which was probably the biggest effect it had on my life.
Yeah, America is the loud nation, surrounded by one-way mirrors.

 I don't recall any particular day I heard about it, although I was so sure it was only five or six years ago. Maybe I only heard about it on one of the anniversaries where they replayed the footage, but I might be getting the time wrong because people are still talking about it too (why does the news need to show it if they don't have any more news on the matter?). So the event itself effected my life so little as to be completely unnoticeable, but all the "war on terror" nonsense has made a nasty hit on...a majority of the world now. Kinda sad that the nation was trolled so easily (for the war was exactly what Bin Laden wanted); kinda sad that Bush fell for it so easily; kinda sad that we chose our president based on how easily he could be manipulated; and kinda sad that we couldn't (and still can't) spot our selection errors and redesign the process accordingly. As pointed out before, very little greiving comes the disaster itself, but it's a mindless national outlet for greiving from so many other sources.
Pretty much this. It made me very cynical about the population's reasoning faculties... or lack thereof. "Great; now if this happened 2 times every 3 days year round, it would almost equal the number of cancer deaths in the US." You're also more likely to die from a cataclysmic asteroid impact than from a terrorist attack. And yet we spend over $100 billion a year and about what, 10,000 civilian casualties per year 'fighting terrorism.' ಠ_ಠ

Not to even get into the McCarthy-esque 'if you don't support going to war, you're a terrorist too!,' 'Freedom Fries,' and the creeping infringement of rights.
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Re: 11th of September, 2001
« Reply #88 on: September 13, 2011, 12:43:30 pm »

Alright, yeah, this thread is done.
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